...or someone senior to you in a different category take a VD into your category and bump you out. It cuts both ways. Always best to have some backup choices listed.

01-20-2011, 03:31 AM

#57512

DeadHead

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Assuming the vote occurs in the same conditions, I think that's more than likely. But if some of the interference charges apply, wouldn't the format change? For example, would links on company computers be disallowed? Would that have an effect?

Not really sure how the format would change, personally I don't think interference charges would apply unless the company exhibited some undue, threatening pressure towards the FA group to vote against the union.
From everything I've seen, it looks as though all the company did was express the importance of voting versus not voting in this election.
Not being a legal expert here in union matters, but I really don't think they have much to stand on.

I think the AFA/IAM was counting on a large majority of "No" voters not realizing that they had to vote one way or the other if they wanted their vote to count.
I think the fight was contentious to get the voting rules changes because either side thought one process versus the other would work to their advantage.

01-20-2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brocc15

If I am in a category with reductions, but have more people below me than the number of reductions, how does that work? Can people being displaced from other categories that are senior to me bid over and bump me out?

Its possible for you to get bumped. It would however be highly unlikely since this was a overall positive bid by a big margin. If you do not have displacement preferences in the computer and get bumped you go to the next lowest category in your base. That may or may not be what you want and if you are already there you would get bumped to another base. Put in a couple of options in your mandatory displacement page just in case.
If you desire to move to something else then make sure you have things in your advance entitlement page. Just be aware that sometimes strange things happen and people get bids they did not expect and have buyers remorse. In addition as a general rule your voluntary displacement page should mirror your advance entitlement page.

01-20-2011, 04:39 AM

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Anybody know why a trip in open time would show both positions A & B staffed versus being empty?

01-20-2011, 04:45 AM

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Anybody know why a trip in open time would show both positions A & B staffed versus being empty?

Is it a qualified trip in open time? IE is someone trying to drop it so it goes in open time?

01-20-2011, 04:50 AM

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Is it a qualified trip in open time? IE is someone trying to drop it so it goes in open time?

I thought that a REG trying to Drop/Swap a trip would only show up on the ecrew swap board.

I didn't think lineholders were allowed to just drop a trip into open time.

01-20-2011, 04:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadHead

Anybody know why a trip in open time would show both positions A & B staffed versus being empty?

Quote:

Originally Posted by satchip

Is it a qualified trip in open time? IE is someone trying to drop it so it goes in open time?

A few reasons. One if you looked at Open and Qualified as Satch stated. You will see a "Q" next to it in the open time pot.

Second is if the rotation has a LCA somewhere on it, and they are getting ready to dump the FO from it, and assign a guy in need of IOE. It should disappear in a few mins.

Third, is someone that called in for a commuter clause. Scheduling is putting it there, but will not release the FO from it until they are certain the pilot cannot make it. (Have seen this a few times)

01-20-2011, 04:52 AM

#57518

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Originally Posted by DeadHead

I thought that a REG trying to Drop/Swap a trip would only show up on the ecrew swap board.

I didn't think lineholders were allowed to just drop a trip into open time.

It is not dropped. It is still part of their LOT until another line holder picks it up. It just shows up there. Many guys will put a trip they do not want on the swap board and Qualify it in the Open Time pot. If no one picks it up, they still fly it.

01-20-2011, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Ah, just saw a "Q" in the med column.
Doesn't look like the captain is a LCA, but im guessing they may just drop both A & B positions to get the IOE completed.