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You can't infer tone from a post. I think it's merely accurate to say that the arguments that either side likes to hang on to regarding the merger or the SLI are not going to work on the other side, even if they are legitimate. Everyone likes to believe their airline was the best before the merger, and I see no value in toying with those sentiments.

When I say "I don't care who had the better contract", I'm not saying "All NW pilots are [deleted] and I don't care about their opinion", but I am saying that I don't care about discussions that are guaranteed to fail to get us moving forward on a better contract.

I'm interested in the discussions about the contract, and especially those about our next contract, and beyond that I think everyone can be proud of their past, and leave it at that. Make sense?

Absolutely makes sense and I couldn't agree more. I think there is a lot of merit to look at other contracts to find those golden nuggets. I don't want that to lead to the infamous "well, my company is better or my dad will beat up your dad" type of pointless arguments. The merger is done, we all have a past but we are all currently Delta pilots. I am proud of that fact because I believe we work for a very strong company on that has the ability to do many great things over my career.

01-19-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I was trying to find the memo on Deltanet, but no luck. Anyways, I'm certain it's everywhere.

It is everywhere in Mexico, but I heard (from F/A's) that MEX is the only one enforcing it. I do a lot of CUN and GDL layovers and haven't ever had a problem with liquid and/or gels. They just give me the international "move along" signal.

01-19-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I was trying to find the memo on Deltanet, but no luck. Anyways, I'm certain it's everywhere.

It was on the left side of the Flight Operations home page, right below the hotlinks to Icrew etc. It is below the IROP memo. If I recall it is the Mexico Travel Advisory. If it not longer there, click on more. If that does not work, look on the bottom of the page under general advisories.

You are correct, though, it is a Nationwide ban on liquids over 3.5 oz. Crews included.

01-19-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare

Due to the nature of our seasonal pullbacks, there must be a certain inefficiency because of the up and down cycle of flights. That being said, at certain times of the year, there will be guys sitting around doing nothing. Why should that bother you? That sounds a bit like those SWA weenies crying over on the SWA/AT SLI thread because the AT guys will get a payraise to do the EXACT same job they are doing now.

What is more offensive is that when you look at short call coverage during the summer months, you might see 2 or 3 guys/day.. (when, I might add we are throttle to the stop on flying...) and in the winter when we have 10 or 12 guys/day available, they put 5 on SC. How does that make any sense? Oh yeah... just in case.

If anything, it's abusive, because of the ridiculous requirement that available>required in order to drop/move X days. Now there are 13/day required to cover less flights, whereas in the summer that number is significantly less with MORE flights... Lean and mean is all well and good in theory, but in practice, there MUST be some fat to absorb (IROP) times like the company just went thru. Personally, I couldn't care less if there are guys sitting around doing nothing for periods of time. It's the cost of doing the business we do. SWA is about to learn all about it.

Excellent post T.

01-19-2011, 08:53 AM

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Delta Chief Impressed by GTF powered A320neo and Cseries

Fresh from issuing a request for proposal (RFP) to manufacturers for up to 200 narrowbody replacement aircraft, Delta Air Lines management appears impressed with both the re-engined A320neo and the Bombardier CSeries.

Carrier chief executive Richard Anderson during the carrier's fourth quarter earnings call specifically labelled the Pratt & Whitney PW1000G series geared turbofan (GTF) powerplant as a "viable engine", and highlighted the roughly 20% improvement in fuel efficiency the engine should deliver.

Citing oil prices around $95 per barrel, Anderson states the GTF's fuel efficiency projection is "significant".

While Boeing has not stated its intentions for a re-engined or clean-sheet 737, Anderson explains that in the negotiations regarding the RFP Boeing will need to "match the numbers" of the aircraft powered by the GTF.

Delta also plans to retire about 100 aircraft during the next 18 months, the carrier states, largely comprising 50-seat regional jets, Saab 340 turboprops and DC9s.

01-19-2011, 08:59 AM

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Bombardier's CSeries on Delta's Radar

Is it just me... rhetorical question... or at this very pivotal point in the airline industry Boeing is not offering a product carriers want and Airbus subsequently is making a small adjustment while Bombardier (and possibly Embraer at some point) are offering something to muddy up the efficiency waters.

Maybe we're going back to the days of DC jets, Boeing jets, Fokkers, Airbus and whoever else made it so that airlines had multiple fleet types and not just the few types as possible mantra that caught on and died pre DAL/NWA meger and CAL/UAL merger.