Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Search

Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-18-2011, 05:56 PM
  #57361  
Da Hudge
 
80ktsClamp's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Default

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
That's an excellent point, 80!
I remember BK and others huffing and puffing that same diatribe he just posted... while I'm sitting there back in the back thinking exactly what I just posted. Although, I was so taken aback at them justifying what happened instead of coming up with any sort of a fix to the problem that there really wasn't much to say.

They wonder why I don't consider those with that point of view relevant...
80ktsClamp is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 05:59 PM
  #57362  
Can't abide NAI
 
Bucking Bar's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,038
Default

Originally Posted by sailingfun
The total block hours flown on average in 2001 were the same as the block hours flown in June of 2007 pre merger. You would expect that would yield the same number of pilots. Sadly it did not. We were flying the 07 schedule with 2500 fewer line pilots. Down from 10,000 to 7500. That was a direct result of a hundred or more work rule changes to increase productivity. Those jobs lost are equally spread across the fleet spectrum from 777 CA to MD88 FO.
Good post.
Bucking Bar is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 06:00 PM
  #57363  
Da Hudge
 
80ktsClamp's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Default

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
80, DCI employs about 6K pilots.

And think about how many jobs that would be without being under slave workrules...


Of course the economics of it would probably even out the number of pilots as some of the borderline viable small cities would no longer be serviced or frequency would be reduced.

Regardless, that would take us from 12500 pilots to 18500 pilots.
80ktsClamp is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 06:15 PM
  #57364  
At home on the maddog!
 
DAL 88 Driver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Default

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
80, DCI employs about 6K pilots.
How many did they employ in 2001?
DAL 88 Driver is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 06:19 PM
  #57365  
Can't abide NAI
 
Bucking Bar's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,038
Default

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
How many did they employ in 2001?
Think the number was around 2,400.

Last edited by Bucking Bar; 01-18-2011 at 06:29 PM.
Bucking Bar is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 06:46 PM
  #57366  
Gets Weekends Off
 
buzzpat's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
Default

Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I highly recommend the C-141. Even it's shadow seems to provide for some pretty good times.
I was hoping for a C-141 Berlin base on this latest AE. MB I could have held a line again.
buzzpat is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 06:56 PM
  #57367  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,619
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

(2) Most thinking Delta pilots would like an affirmative statement from their MEC expressing the opinion that ALL DELTA JOBS ARE VALUABLE. The concept that some jobs are better than others leads to negotiations which inevitably place the representation of one pilot superior to the representation of another pilot who is inferior. As a union, ALPA has a duty to treat all of its members equally.
No, only ER Captains' jobs are important. I keed, I keed.
alfaromeo is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 07:01 PM
  #57368  
seeing the large hubs...
 
iaflyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 73N A
Posts: 3,759
Default

Originally Posted by buzzpat
I was hoping for a C-141 Berlin base on this latest AE. MB I could have held a line again.
I'm holding out for the 727 base in Berlin. I'll bid FE, guess I'll have to chit-chat with the German FAs while we are waiting to board. Too bad.
iaflyer is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 07:05 PM
  #57369  
Gets Weekends Off
 
JABDIP's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: bartender
Posts: 295
Default

Originally Posted by sailingfun
The total block hours flown on average in 2001 were the same as the block hours flown in June of 2007 pre merger. You would expect that would yield the same number of pilots. Sadly it did not. We were flying the 07 schedule with 2500 fewer line pilots. Down from 10,000 to 7500. That was a direct result of a hundred or more work rule changes to increase productivity. Those jobs lost are equally spread across the fleet spectrum from 777 CA to MD88 FO.
Excellent post. Everyone seems to harp about the all mighty hourly pay rate, but work rules are huge especially when it come to quality of life, quality of rotations, and pilot productivity. Hopefully, C2012 will have a good revamp of work rules.
JABDIP is offline  
Old 01-18-2011, 07:06 PM
  #57370  
Gets Weekends Off
 
buzzpat's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
Default

Originally Posted by iaflyer
I'm holding out for the 727 base in Berlin. I'll bid FE, guess I'll have to chit-chat with the German FAs while we are waiting to board. Too bad.
Timing is everything IA! We missed it by "thissssssssssssss much."
buzzpat is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22594
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices