Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-17-2011, 06:37 AM
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So anybody know anything besides what was in the McNews today about Vision airlines? Great.. another cheap airline launched while we were asleep last night... I thought this garbage was over. Over under on 2 years before they are TU?
01-17-2011, 06:45 AM
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01-17-2011, 06:48 AM
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...........double post
01-17-2011, 06:50 AM
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With all the consolidation that's been going on, not sure how much of a chance a startup will have if they start trying to compete at the major hubs.
Tha being said,
At least they are not another Skybust trying to sleaze their way in with $20 fares, and if they stick with the smaller, underserviced markets they may make a good run on it.
01-17-2011, 06:51 AM
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01-17-2011, 06:53 AM
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01-17-2011, 08:12 AM
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I worked for a CO that said repeatedly that "Hope is not a plan". During 2008 we saw the Company buy out a lot of folks who worked behind the scenes and replace them with "technology". Well as many have pointed out, we're using yesterday's technology tomorrow.
We are thin staffed at any number of points. They put off hiring pilots too late last year and now they are paying a bunch of us to sit at home awaiting training, because they didn't want to bring new hires in at their inflated salaries to over staff some categories so that we could adequately staff other categories.
We have been running lean. Like a long distance runner, that's ok. The problem is when the marathoner is asked to sprint and there aren't any stores of fat to draw upon. Ok, maybe not the best analogy but I hope you get my point. The MBA types don't study history, so they are doomed to repeat it. Corporate America did this in the late 1990s and into the early 2000s, they then bemoaned the lack of good workers.
In order to provide good customer experience we need to staff above the bare minimum at all levels and that includes people behind the scenes that customers don't see. Crew tracking and accommodations work ok during normal ops, but they're stretched. So throw in a major IROP and it falls apart. The mahogany row was hoping that one major IROP was all we had to deal with this winter, too late they learned "Hope is not a plan".
We are thin staffed at any number of points. They put off hiring pilots too late last year and now they are paying a bunch of us to sit at home awaiting training, because they didn't want to bring new hires in at their inflated salaries to over staff some categories so that we could adequately staff other categories.
We have been running lean. Like a long distance runner, that's ok. The problem is when the marathoner is asked to sprint and there aren't any stores of fat to draw upon. Ok, maybe not the best analogy but I hope you get my point. The MBA types don't study history, so they are doomed to repeat it. Corporate America did this in the late 1990s and into the early 2000s, they then bemoaned the lack of good workers.
In order to provide good customer experience we need to staff above the bare minimum at all levels and that includes people behind the scenes that customers don't see. Crew tracking and accommodations work ok during normal ops, but they're stretched. So throw in a major IROP and it falls apart. The mahogany row was hoping that one major IROP was all we had to deal with this winter, too late they learned "Hope is not a plan".
That's BS! It's been snowing since before Wilbur and Orville were born. It WILL snow in ATL. If a snowstorm is going to shut the whole operation down, perhaps the OCC/crew tracking/etc should be located where they have a clue how to deal with snow, so people can get to work.
Wait a sec... didn't NWA have an OCC (or something similar)? When a few inches of snow fell, did their airline come to a grinding halt? Maybe they were onto something....
How do you think it would work if called in and said "I'm having an IROP at home and can't do anything"? I'll bet it would get me a free trip to the Chief Pilot.
Rant Over (but disgust remains).
01-17-2011, 08:28 AM
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Delta is now an official sponsor of the LA Lakers. (Delta Becomes 'Official Sponsor' of World Champion Los Angeles Lakers - Valley News Live - KVLY/KXJB - Fargo/Grand Forks)
Please please please tell me that this is the beginning of a SoCal expansion. I want to return to my home state and I'd rather not be a 73N copilot for the next twenty years.
Please please please tell me that this is the beginning of a SoCal expansion. I want to return to my home state and I'd rather not be a 73N copilot for the next twenty years.
01-17-2011, 08:34 AM
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Maybe they should move the OCC back to MSP. Only 18 inches of snow will be a problem... For a day!
01-17-2011, 08:38 AM
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