Scoop

Guys,

Thanks for the info. I will definitely check with the front desk/doorman and try to find a gym.

Scoop

alfaromeo

I was just there for CQ and they were offering passes to the Y. The Lifetime Fitness was closed.

forgot to bid

Sailing I don't doubt that a bit but in a way if everything is done on CD and the only thing you really do at the training center is the ftds and sims why go through the expense of making a move or dealing with 1 facility?

You could, like you said, move every MSP sim, once the 9 is retired, to ATL. There are I think 13 bays that are either opened or belong to MD11s and an L1011 and I think there are 12 sims in MSP (not including the 9).

But why? Delta of old maybe would've but this isn't necessarily Delta of old nor is the training system the same. But if it happens it happens, I just hope they get some lighting, paint, carpets and a clean up crew in OC1. The place is messy. 2 is better and 3 is fantastic, but 1... could use a little sprucing up.

JetFlyer06

Is there still a sim boxed up in ATL? There was one near the 88 sims when I was there in August not sure which type or even if it was an actual sim tho.

tsquared030

Another factor to consider is the availability of hotel rooms. We have been over on our allotted room count in ATL for months. I'm not sure the local ATL hotels are interested in doubling the number of pilots and FAs they would have to host if the MSP facility were closed.

KC10 FATboy

Looks like the company finally realizes that they must do better during IROPS.

nwaf16dude

I know that the MD11 sim still stays pretty busy with guys from World. Don't know how much revenue that generates, or whether it's enough to keep it operating. Probably still plenty of room for the MSP sims.

sinca3

From my understanding it has been on hold for a little over a month. This from LCPs and the ATL CPO.

dragon

I worked for a CO that said repeatedly that "Hope is not a plan". During 2008 we saw the Company buy out a lot of folks who worked behind the scenes and replace them with "technology". Well as many have pointed out, we're using yesterday's technology tomorrow.

We are thin staffed at any number of points. They put off hiring pilots too late last year and now they are paying a bunch of us to sit at home awaiting training, because they didn't want to bring new hires in at their inflated salaries to over staff some categories so that we could adequately staff other categories.

We have been running lean. Like a long distance runner, that's ok. The problem is when the marathoner is asked to sprint and there aren't any stores of fat to draw upon. Ok, maybe not the best analogy but I hope you get my point. The MBA types don't study history, so they are doomed to repeat it. Corporate America did this in the late 1990s and into the early 2000s, they then bemoaned the lack of good workers.

In order to provide good customer experience we need to staff above the bare minimum at all levels and that includes people behind the scenes that customers don't see. Crew tracking and accommodations work ok during normal ops, but they're stretched. So throw in a major IROP and it falls apart. The mahogany row was hoping that one major IROP was all we had to deal with this winter, too late they learned "Hope is not a plan".

johnso29

Another problem is instructors. A lot of unhappy DGS guys. Plus they want to take on more contracts, but can't cover what we have now.