tsquare

I wonder if Boeing has been asked...

DLDude

PBS is very step by step. If it gets to the end of the bid group and you do not have a line within the LCW, or min or max window if you've specified it and are senior enough to hold it, PBS will shuffle. Shuffling is essentially a substitution process to find a combination of pairings to fit within the window and give you a legal line without having to go to the next step of denial.

Try PBS Overview and go to frame 16/37 under Regular Line processing.

DLDude

Not true

Under the Delta system PBS will swap a trip from a senior to a junior pilot, but only if the trip is equally satisfying to the senior pilot in the context of his bids. Let's say that there are 5 trips that satisfy a senior pilot's preferences and PBS awards two of those trips because they fit. Now let's say that PBS gets to the junior pilot and he asked for one of those two trips awarded to the senior pilot, either generally or specifically. PBS will try to make the swap and give the senior pilot one of the other trips that it could have given him in the first place, but it is only trying to improve the junior pilot's bid if it will not come at the expense of the senior pilot.

Shuffling is basically a process to find a combination of trips that will fit and does not look at junior pilots. My answer to Ferd is here: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tml#post930334

PilotFrog

Now the SHORT MCO layover hotel is nice.

KC10 FATboy

I don't know why people complained about the MCO hotel. The hotel was clean, in a safe area, and it was located near everything you could possibly want via the city trolley. The timing of the trolley was reasonable and I believe it was free. And of course, the free hotel cookies !!!

Newport News, not so much. My room had boogers on the wall, and the mold growing in the wall paper was an added touch. The closet doors were off the hinges and stacked up against the wall. The chair in the room was torn in multiple places, and had many prominent bodily stains (edited to keep a PG rating). The hotel's restaurant (and that's an insult to call it a restaurant), served the worst breakfast bar and food I've ever had from a hotel.

But it gets better. Within reasonable walking distance, you have a steakhouse (which wasn't recommended that we go there by the hotel staff) that opens after 6pm, a pancake house, and a gas station. The pancake house owner says to me as I walk in, "you must be a Delta MD88 pilot?" "Yes, I am, how did you know that?" "Because NOBODY walks down this road but you guys." You don't even have fast food options available. Everything else requires a car because of the distance and/or the sidewalks end.

The insult to injury is that the ride to the hotel takes a minimum of 20 minutes; yet, there are malls, shopping, entertainment, good hotels, every restaurant you would want located ONE exit away from the airport. Go figure.

DAL 88 Driver

Yeah, that layover just never made any sense to me. There is a McDonald's within about a 20 minute walk from the hotel. Other than that, you pretty much covered it. There used to be a BBQ place down the street too, but I think it went out of business. The first time I stayed there, the van driver recommended the BBQ... he was really raving about it. It tasted like (but not quite as good as) that BBQ in a plastic container you buy in the grocery store. I'm not surprised they went out of business.

bluejuice71

I don't think this is correct. I believe you can turn down a GS for any reason. You are under no obligation to accept one. White slips are a different story though.

slowplay

I see somebody needs to reread "When Scheduling Calls"....

A GS that meets your request is not a proffer...

SOFA

Didn't get the "ghetto gouge" I see. Walk out the front door, turn left and go 100 meters. Cross the tracks at the mud trail where the sign says "Do Not Enter." Turn right and walk 300 meters and you are at a Long John Silvers, Subway and a Wawa's gas station that has a sandwich shop. Dress down and you will be safe (i.e. blend in)...I actually made fifty cents for a cup of coffee on the way. Hey, at least we are only a fifteen minute (speed) walk from the historic district that is, of course, closed during the hours of our layover there. That means the lines are shorter! You have to look at the positives, guys.

80ktsClamp

One of our DCI carriers has gotten this memo:

"Performing a pre-flight tactile at the gate is a DL mainline program, not required on Pinnacle Airlines. Both Regional Elite and IDS were notified at the start of the season it was a flight crew responsibility during the pre-flight when working our metal. That said, we do not want to discourage IDS or any ground personnel from notifying the crew when they identify contamination on the aircraft - this would be a direct violation of the clean aircraft policy. Our direction to IDS and RE was a 2nd set of eyes wouldn’t hurt, but the only expected / required tactile would be those required during de/anti icing. If we are experiencing the reverse, where crews are requesting deicing and being refused please let us know ASAP.

Douglas R. Hadley
Manager, Ground Operations
Policies, Procedures & Training "



All DCI planes (at least from this carrier) have to have a pre pushback tactile check before flight now to tell the crews whether to deice, and they are blaming it on us.

Apparently they are saying that all us mainline guys have to have a tactile check by a ramper to tell us if we need to deice before each flight. WHAT... THE.. HECK? And DL mainline is getting charged 50 bucks per plane to tell the pilots whether or not to deice...

I've never heard of this...