Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Since I don't have my own schedule to look at, I took a look at the A's on the ER in DTW for Feb. Only 9 guys on reserve out of 209. Less than 5% reserves? Sounds kind of tight to me.
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I just don't buy all this talk about the glory of the 757 and how no machine on earth can, now or ever, do what it does and it is sooooooooo irreplaceable and whatnot. Its a good plane but it is replaceable on most (if not all) routes that it does. Heck most of the routes that it does are also done by numerous other aircraft types. Yeah I guess that 4pm flight can only be done profitably by the 757 despite the fact that all other hourly flights are done by different aircraft types.
I'm sure there are a few "high and hot" places where the 757 is the best choice. But other planes can certainlly serve those markets too. If the 757 at the end of the day is just so awesome and amazing that no plane on earth can do what it does in a few select markets then we will pay to reskin as many as we need, and/or replace the ones that are doing routes that any plane can and does do all day long well before they cycle out, and reserve those for the special routes, and/or the market will build a plane that does what we and others need it to do. One or the other (or all of the above).
Again its a function of economics. The 757 has a cost and a payload in every market. There is a cost to reskin them as well as to replace them early on less mission critical routes to preserve limited cycles for the routes we need. Other planes can do the routes that the 757 does but may not be able to carry as much and that has a cost. All these costs will factor into the equation and we will end up just fine. We're not going to see a massive route extinction across our network just because the pilot group's sentimental favorite plane that looks cool and climbs awesome becomes by its definition too expensive to reskin and the aircraft market doesn't exactly duplicate what it does. Even if the retirement of the 757 means we will have to replace those few routes it radically outperforms other equipment with other equipment, that by no means will result in us abandoning very many markets, if any.
Its a great airplane. Boneyards are filled with great airplanes. But we will be able to replace, or afford to keep, whatever plane is best for the market...757 or something else, and the sun will rise the next day.
I'm sure there are a few "high and hot" places where the 757 is the best choice. But other planes can certainlly serve those markets too. If the 757 at the end of the day is just so awesome and amazing that no plane on earth can do what it does in a few select markets then we will pay to reskin as many as we need, and/or replace the ones that are doing routes that any plane can and does do all day long well before they cycle out, and reserve those for the special routes, and/or the market will build a plane that does what we and others need it to do. One or the other (or all of the above).
Again its a function of economics. The 757 has a cost and a payload in every market. There is a cost to reskin them as well as to replace them early on less mission critical routes to preserve limited cycles for the routes we need. Other planes can do the routes that the 757 does but may not be able to carry as much and that has a cost. All these costs will factor into the equation and we will end up just fine. We're not going to see a massive route extinction across our network just because the pilot group's sentimental favorite plane that looks cool and climbs awesome becomes by its definition too expensive to reskin and the aircraft market doesn't exactly duplicate what it does. Even if the retirement of the 757 means we will have to replace those few routes it radically outperforms other equipment with other equipment, that by no means will result in us abandoning very many markets, if any.
Its a great airplane. Boneyards are filled with great airplanes. But we will be able to replace, or afford to keep, whatever plane is best for the market...757 or something else, and the sun will rise the next day.
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Rumor has it yesterday at DTW's base visit it was mentioned that part of the reason the past AE was delayed was because the proposed FTDT rules will effect it. Not sure how(especially since I'd think there would be an implementation period) but take it FWIW.
Any more rumors from the DTW meeting?... it's awfully quiet here today.
WESTCOAST (LA) GROWTH, maybe????
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I just don't buy all this talk about the glory of the 757 and how no machine on earth can, now or ever, do what it does and it is sooooooooo irreplaceable and whatnot. Its a good plane but it is replaceable on most (if not all) routes that it does. Heck most of the routes that it does are also done by numerous other aircraft types. Yeah I guess that 4pm flight can only be done profitably by the 757 despite the fact that all other hourly flights are done by different aircraft types.
I'm sure there are a few "high and hot" places where the 757 is the best choice. But other planes can certainlly serve those markets too. If the 757 at the end of the day is just so awesome and amazing that no plane on earth can do what it does in a few select markets then we will pay to reskin as many as we need, and/or replace the ones that are doing routes that any plane can and does do all day long well before they cycle out, and reserve those for the special routes, and/or the market will build a plane that does what we and others need it to do. One or the other (or all of the above).
Again its a function of economics. The 757 has a cost and a payload in every market. There is a cost to reskin them as well as to replace them early on less mission critical routes to preserve limited cycles for the routes we need. Other planes can do the routes that the 757 does but may not be able to carry as much and that has a cost. All these costs will factor into the equation and we will end up just fine. We're not going to see a massive route extinction across our network just because the pilot group's sentimental favorite plane that looks cool and climbs awesome becomes by its definition too expensive to reskin and the aircraft market doesn't exactly duplicate what it does. Even if the retirement of the 757 means we will have to replace those few routes it radically outperforms other equipment with other equipment, that by no means will result in us abandoning very many markets, if any.
Its a great airplane. Boneyards are filled with great airplanes. But we will be able to replace, or afford to keep, whatever plane is best for the market...757 or something else, and the sun will rise the next day.
I'm sure there are a few "high and hot" places where the 757 is the best choice. But other planes can certainlly serve those markets too. If the 757 at the end of the day is just so awesome and amazing that no plane on earth can do what it does in a few select markets then we will pay to reskin as many as we need, and/or replace the ones that are doing routes that any plane can and does do all day long well before they cycle out, and reserve those for the special routes, and/or the market will build a plane that does what we and others need it to do. One or the other (or all of the above).
Again its a function of economics. The 757 has a cost and a payload in every market. There is a cost to reskin them as well as to replace them early on less mission critical routes to preserve limited cycles for the routes we need. Other planes can do the routes that the 757 does but may not be able to carry as much and that has a cost. All these costs will factor into the equation and we will end up just fine. We're not going to see a massive route extinction across our network just because the pilot group's sentimental favorite plane that looks cool and climbs awesome becomes by its definition too expensive to reskin and the aircraft market doesn't exactly duplicate what it does. Even if the retirement of the 757 means we will have to replace those few routes it radically outperforms other equipment with other equipment, that by no means will result in us abandoning very many markets, if any.
Its a great airplane. Boneyards are filled with great airplanes. But we will be able to replace, or afford to keep, whatever plane is best for the market...757 or something else, and the sun will rise the next day.
The ETOPS 757s are safe as there is no equivalent replacement aircraft in that gauge...
DAL press release FWIW:
Late December, Delta sent a RFP to several major aircraft manufacturers for the eventual replacement of aircraft such as the Airbus A320, the DC9-50 and the Boeing 757-200, and to provide for long-term mainline domestic growth.
As the 90s come online they release other types to fill in for the DC-9...
Since 2007, Delta has invested in 60 mainline aircraft, including 10 Boeing 777-200LRs, 12 Boeing 737-700/800s, five used Boeing 757-200s and 33 used MD-90s.
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We did add additional LAX-SFO frequencies (7 or 8x daily) with 2 mainline jets in the mix and LAX-SAC goes to 4x daily on RJs starting in April.
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George
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