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Old 01-13-2011, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Airbus recently announced the new 320 with a GTF, and I think that got us a lot closer to a NB order then many think. DAL can't wait much longer. Our fleet is getting old, and fast.
Not *scheduled* to enter service until 2016. And we know how they are with schedules...
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Airbus recently announced the new 320 with a GTF, and I think that got us a lot closer to a NB order then many think. DAL can't wait much longer. Our fleet is getting old, and fast.
I have never heard of a geared turbofan before, and I was an aero major! Pretty cool technology.

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Old 01-13-2011, 11:56 AM
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In case anyone hasn't used the RESX website through DAL to book discounted rental cars and hotels, I highly recommend it. You go through DeltaNet, Employee Perks, Deals & Discounts, Travel Packages & Services, and scroll down to "RESX". Set up your login, and you get free access to a high quality travel booking system which includes a lot of employee discounts (LAX Marriott booked for $59/night without calling the front desk).
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Our fleet is getting old, and fast.
You're talking about planes, right?
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Airbus recently announced the new 320 with a GTF, and I think that got us a lot closer to a NB order then many think. DAL can't wait much longer. Our fleet is getting old, and fast.
Our fleet is getting old at the same rate as when we bought it. That rate matches the rate that every other airline's fleet is aging.

I commuted recently on a SWA 737-300 packed to the gills with a single class of service. Somehow that jet hung in the air and somehow that company continues to make money.

I like shiny new stuff as much as the next person, but this memo smacks of bait and switch. The cheese has been sufficiently moved: Rubber on the ramp and I'll believe it! Pay me first.
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I commuted recently on a SWA 737-300 packed to the gills with a single class of service. Somehow that jet hung in the air and somehow that company continues to make money.
While on said 733, did you notice any altars where small fuzzy baby animals are commonly sacrificed?
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:25 PM
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While on said 733, did you notice any altars where small fuzzy baby animals are commonly sacrificed?
Yeah, mostly kittens, which I was okay with.
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Yeah, mostly kittens, which I was okay with.
If kittens never became cats then the world would be a better place.

I once read, totally off here, that during the plagues of the middle ages they often blamed cats as being the demonic evil doers that most American men associate them with being today.

So they slaughtered cats but had they not slaughtered the cats they would have had an animal who would've feasted on the rats that were actually carrying the plague. So without something to eat the rats the plague spread.

I swear I read this, a flight attendant did not tell me this. I'm sure if I made the effort I could find a reference.

Just imagine how much of this we could have avoided:



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Old 01-13-2011, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DFW Refugee
BINGO! And as Sailing pointed out, this does smack of previous-contract playbook talk. Also, any talk of hiring may point to future 'hostages,' if you're a cynic. (Just ask the '91-'93 peeps.)
So if the management of your company tells you that they're going to order new aircraft, don't believe them. It's just a trick...

If the management of your company doesn't tell you that they're going to order new airplanes, don't believe them. They're just mismanaging the place, or trying to manage your contract expectations, as the order will be placed afterwards....

Got it.

I posted before...we've got 34 DC-9's that are really old. In 2016 we'll have over 60 757's that are 25-30 years old. There'll be a bunch of MD-88's that can't fly NextGen and the early A320's that are over 25 years old. There'll be a bunch of 767's and ER's that are over 25 years old. The FAA just put out an AD on older 757's for fuselage stress. My bet is there'll be more rather than less of those technical issues as the airplanes get older.

In spite of what Scambo says, maybe we ought to encourage management to do a prudent fleet renewal. Maybe that's what they're telling you they're doing.

Wait, it's all about expectation management and the contract. Sorry, I forgot!
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Late December, Delta sent a RFP to several major aircraft manufacturers for the eventual replacement of aircraft such as the Airbus A320, the DC9-50 and the Boeing 757-200, and to provide for long-term mainline domestic growth.
HA! MD88 didn't make the list. You know what this means!



cue music...

standby... got to find some appropriate music to honor the MD-88...
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