Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-15-2009, 06:55 PM
#5661
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: SLC ERB
Posts: 467
Sad but true though it boggles my mind - if reserve (short call) is not considered rest for domestic pilots why is it considered rest for international? I know that this is how the FAA sees it but it doesn't make any sense. This is one of reserve items that should be addressed in our contract.
03-15-2009, 07:02 PM
#5662
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Legacy FO
Posts: 4,105
It doesn't need to be addressed in our contract. It should be addressed with the FAA and ICAO. If we were to pass tougher rest requirements but our competitors do not, we are screwed. Rest requirements shouldn't be a contract thing, it should be law.
03-15-2009, 07:09 PM
#5663
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 737 Capt
Posts: 1,166
When guys divert or refuse trips due to being fatigued maybe it will get their attention.........
03-16-2009, 03:04 AM
#5664
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Trying to remember "Thrust Normal", "Checks", and something else besides "How are the rides today?"
Posts: 117
I spoke with 3 different pilots who were at the meeting. None heard the above statement. The statement is put together from several different areas discussed and is put together to convey something that was not said. There is also a tread on the ALPA forum discussing this exact statement that backs up that it is incorrect from other pilots who were there.
I was not at the meeting but please don't blame these guys for doing that if that is the case. In fact if your statement is true, they are doing exactly what every news media outlet and press secretary (senior administrations official) has done for the 6 administrations. I mean why not pull sound bytes from an entire conversation and get it down to 30 seconds of talking points.
Meant to be very TIC
03-16-2009, 04:25 AM
#5665
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Dismayed
Posts: 1,598
They do have a computer program that analyzes the reserves available and "recommends" which ones get short call. It has nothing to do with seniority, requests for short call, or your raw score. They usually just do what the computer spits out. You can sometimes talk them out of moving your callout time to a later or earlier time, but you will probably never talk them out of moving you back to long call if you get assigned a short call. Also, don't forget that if you get assigned a trip on your first day of a block of reserve days that has a report time before 12:00, it counts as one of your short call days. Sometimes they forget to credit that to you.
03-16-2009, 07:17 AM
#5666
AAmerican Way for AA Pay
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: B-737 Pilot
Posts: 1,617
567 Pages???!
Don't you think it's time for a new thread?
03-16-2009, 07:21 AM
#5667
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,037
Nope!
The length of this thread is the entire point of it.
The length of this thread is the entire point of it.
03-16-2009, 09:32 AM
#5668
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
I spoke with 3 different pilots who were at the meeting. None heard the above statement. The statement is put together from several different areas discussed and is put together to convey something that was not said. There is also a tread on the ALPA forum discussing this exact statement that backs up that it is incorrect from other pilots who were there.
That statement was said...just not in public at the meeting. Alot more goes on than just the public talk at the meetings.
03-16-2009, 12:59 PM
#5670
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Posts: 13,088
I spoke with 3 different pilots who were at the meeting. None heard the above statement. The statement is put together from several different areas discussed and is put together to convey something that was not said. There is also a tread on the ALPA forum discussing this exact statement that backs up that it is incorrect from other pilots who were there.
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