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01-08-2011, 07:13 PM
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You are utterly clueless.
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01-08-2011, 07:17 PM
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Carl,
Yes, there are several ways that unwarranted concessions might occur. Historically, I think that more harm has been done to the profession by frightened, disunited pilot groups than by rogue representatives. The latter situation is more infuriating, but the former is harder to fix.
Yes, there are several ways that unwarranted concessions might occur. Historically, I think that more harm has been done to the profession by frightened, disunited pilot groups than by rogue representatives. The latter situation is more infuriating, but the former is harder to fix.
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01-08-2011, 07:24 PM
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I wish I could agree.
Again, I wish I could agree.
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01-08-2011, 07:32 PM
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Now to interrupt this 12 round boxing match:
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"I just wanted to let everyone know that I flew in BE the other day and had one of the nicest most enjoyable flights in business of any airline. The crew was EXCELLENT and everything about the flight was great."
Back to the ***** fest......
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From a DL GM:
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"I just wanted to let everyone know that I flew in BE the other day and had one of the nicest most enjoyable flights in business of any airline. The crew was EXCELLENT and everything about the flight was great."
Back to the ***** fest......
01-08-2011, 07:33 PM
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Really? I fly with guys pretty much every trip who say the same thing. We decide what we're willing to negotiate or not. More outsourcing is universally NO in my experience. It's true we were talked into the Alaska codeshare because it came from NW with the merger. I voted no because of it and what I thought it would do to any chance of expansion in LA. No more DCI is easy though, unless your objective is to sow doubt and fear that is.
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01-08-2011, 07:58 PM
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It isn't set in stone, and that's the problem.
Right now our MEC mission statement doesn't include any language directing it to recapture or extend the amount of Delta flying that is performed by Delta pilots.
I for one would sleep better if our association's mission statement included scope language. Maybe it's time to add that.
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George
Right now our MEC mission statement doesn't include any language directing it to recapture or extend the amount of Delta flying that is performed by Delta pilots.
I for one would sleep better if our association's mission statement included scope language. Maybe it's time to add that.
Cheers
George
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01-08-2011, 08:04 PM
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So the company comes to DALPA and says. "We would like to convert 20 of our 70 seaters allowed to 76 seaters. If you agree we have a tentative order for 100 C series jets. The switch from 70 seaters will occur in a 1 for 5 ratio. For each 5 C series jets on the property and flying we get to convert 1 70 seater to a 76 seater. The overall fleet number which is currently at XXX cannot go below the current number plus the C series slots or we lose the extra 76 seaters. If C series jets are removed from the fleet we remove the 76 seats in a inverse proportion. Deliveries of the C series will start in 6 months and we will post a bid next week.
Would you say no???
Would you say no???
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01-08-2011, 08:17 PM
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01-08-2011, 08:35 PM
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I would absolutely say no. The fact that you would go to this length in order to set up this hypothetical is very telling. You've obviously done so because you are trying to show everyone that we all really agree with you...that further weakening of scope is just a matter of finding the right price. You clearly believe that. I'm very concerned that DALPA agrees with that - but they know they cannot say it.
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Just because C series is being added in this hypothetical situation, doesn't negate scope erosion at the other end. Besides, just imagine the parked DC-9s as those C series planes. Then it really doesn't sound like a good deal at all. That's because . . . it's not.
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