Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy

Remember when Fox News and other talk show hosts reported on this (the government studying whether to steal 401Ks)? The gov and their media folks came out swinging saying that they lied about those reports. Then it was revealed that the Congress had hearings, and out of those hearings some of the ideas being floated was to take away any tax incentives and to support having Americans flip their 401Ks into Guaranteed Retirement Accounts which give you a whopping 3% return on investment.

So, are they trying to steal it? Not really. They're just want to take away any incentive for you to save by either taxing it to death making it not worth your while, or they're going to offer something different that they can borrow more debt against while giving you a crappy return.

Flyguy1 I agree with you. If they want that money, they're going to get it.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

255 is the max and they can add about 15 or so more 70 seaters and no 76 seaters. Save the drama. They are still in compliance. If anything the fact that these are 70's and not 76 seat jets should make you realize something.

Originally Posted by contrails

Nearly the end of the line!

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Yep and they bought 70's not 76 seaters.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Yep and they bought 70's not 76 seaters.

Originally Posted by 1234

I am a little slow today (ok, everyday) but what is the significance of the 70 seater vs 76 seat purchase other than the company is already maxed out on the number of 76 seaters?

I am sure they would prefer the 76 seater.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Ok I will give you one good one. DAL and SKW committed to four 70 seat jets. It means that the scope limit on the 76 seat jets has held. If there was going to be more 76 seat jets allowed they would have waited. They went ahead and committed to a smaller jet for their needs.

You can take that two ways. One we will not grow enough to allow more 76 seat jets, or that the allow 76 seat jet ratio is a hard limit that your MEC has not budged on. I prefer the latter!

Originally Posted by 1234

Oh. I am not usually a glass half empty person, however, I also watched as us (fNWA) sign a deal allowing unlimited 44 seaters and being told that there is no way they can put in an additional 6 seats. It is a different type certificate and would be to expensive to even consider. Then in BK, unlimited 50 seaters and guess what, they put 6 more seats in as fast as they could.

You might also look at it as a replacement of 4 50 seat jets.