acl65pilot

There is something about keeping labor peace and I do not see some low cost international carrier flying routes on a code share. Skyteam has a network and they want to solidify power. To date they want all pilots from all carriers within the Skyteam to be on board with it.

As for efficency. I sit on a WB on reserve and flew well over 500 hrs last year as a reserve pilot. For a reserve pilot that is very good efficiency. That is block and not including DH credits. With that I am near 660.

We are very efficient here. SWA is used as a benchmark, but the fact is that they fly one jet fairly efficiently. From a pilot perspective they used to have all three days, not they are getting more four days. They average about 5.5 trips per day.

I do not use them as a benchmark. I look at how we schedule here at DAL, and I am telling you, we are efficient. Rebase the jets, get rid of the DH and we would know every other carriers efficiency out of the water

shiznit

Jolly good....Hitherto rather betwixt AND between!!!

acl65pilot

correct a mundo.

Fact is that communication and direction from the line will be key for this administration. Putting P2P back is a major step. They are also going the change the way P2P operates on many levels. Why? To better serve the pilots.

jetnwa

Johnson,

Whether the CSeries is in production or not yet doesn't change the fact it is on the horizon or some other variation will be. Anyone should go to the Bombardier website and try telling me it is just a "placeholder". It is a replacement aircraft and potential gamechanger. Just because you don't like the message, it doesn't change the fact the 100 seat pressure is there to be outsourced.

IMHO, I highly doubt we will have a 12,000 pilot list 10 years from now. I didn't say guys will get furloughed but I believe attrition will make it a smaller airline while code shares, JVs and potentially bigger RJs will take more and more of the mainline pie. Please show me where the growth aircraft are? The company has made it very clear they don't want encumber the balance sheet with new aircraft orders. Even the used aircraft we are getting will most likely replace other, older mainline ships.

As for "Complaining" about a threat to my career again, well Johnson, I don't know when you were hired. A lot of us pre 2001 NWA/DAL hires have been "around the block" with this issue and it wasn't fun. Taking a very vocal, hard line attitude on Scope is an important issue for us. The "silence" from the MEC on this matter has been deafening. Maybe they have it suitcased and are just being quiet about it?

As I said before, there is a difference between being "furloughed" and having your job "outsourced". Seeing mainline aircraft parked while on the street, then watching huge growth in larger RJs on those former routes, tends to stick in your craw and make one a little more militant.

I know two of my DTW reps very well and talk to them often. With that being said, it still doesn't change the threat or economic pressures that the company may want to use for a deal. Whether you like it or not, I have no doubt with enough money on the table, you will find 51% of any pilot group who will vote "Yes".

Jack Bauer

.....Agree!

Splash

1. They're not alone.
2. "Probably"?
3. Understatement of the year, but it's only January.
4. Ahh...the age-old Quality vs Quantity issue.
5. Maybe you should underline more, or use larger font.
6. I'm liking our reps more and more...
7. Your posted REFUSED to mention pay restoration! You are trying to manage our expectations!

Pineapple Guy

Carl, I have no doubt the reps will follow the will of the represented; but that will may or may not reflect the will of the APC forum, or the 747 crowd. Something to consider. Just because you don't get your way, doesn't mean the reps aren't following the will of those they represent.

NuGuy

Maybe, maybe not.

We'll see how well PtP does when the current "DPA Threat" blows over, and then we'll be in a position to make that call.

My voice mail had 10 messages today alone with guys calling me about the "lack of scope message" (and one from the "IA Machine").

You can bet if the leadership was onboard with the Scope message, that the CA/UA Arbitration would be front page "in-your-face-when-you-log-into-DALPA" news.

Nu

Splash

By that logic, a blank memo signed by the MEC Chairman is the loudest possible message on all topics?

Maybe you only heard it because it was LOUDER because it wasn't stated at all...thereby having infinite volume under NuGuy's Law (see above).

shiznit

ok, I buy that. I do believe the P2P restart as a permanent fixture isn't because of DPA sentiment, but we will both have to wait and see.

DALPA isn't in the middle of negotiations right now, hence there is no practical reason to poke the hornets nest with in-you-face-when-you-log-in types of messages. I'm guessing and it is just a guess, that we will definitely see much more "fire up the troops" type things when it becomes a useful tool. Right now, "happy pilots" is useful in chipping away at BK contract issues slowly....Section 6 is when "unhappy pilots" become a much more useful threat. Because of "status quo" requirements in negotiations, there are limited options to inflict pressure on the company to act.... If I were in charge, I'd save my ammo for when it was going to have max effect.