Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-17-2010, 11:00 AM
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Might be a few other issues, though!Just read that the Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan JNC reached a TA.
12-17-2010, 11:12 AM
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Isn't this "tag on" flying?
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12-17-2010, 11:20 AM
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Bar,
I think "past practice" is used in many contract disputes to establish what's "legal", written language notwithstanding. If nobody ever volunteered for overtime, the company would have no legitimate beef about it, they'd have to hire more pilots, and guys would move up faster. But lots of us did volunteer (unless pilots were on furlough), so in a way, we made our own bed in this matter.
I think "past practice" is used in many contract disputes to establish what's "legal", written language notwithstanding. If nobody ever volunteered for overtime, the company would have no legitimate beef about it, they'd have to hire more pilots, and guys would move up faster. But lots of us did volunteer (unless pilots were on furlough), so in a way, we made our own bed in this matter.
12-17-2010, 11:41 AM
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That would be tag on flying in the situation you describe. What is not tag on flying however is when you block in at 1600 on 23 Dec and head down the jetway to spend the holiday with your family. You are stopped by a CP office worker who notifies you that you have rotation xxxx on 24 Dec reporting at 1300 and its a 4 day trip. Happens often when they get really short. That is a trip assignment and legal. Tag on flying is when they try and extend the rotation you are on and send you back out right away.
12-17-2010, 11:43 AM
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In a landmark decision issued today in the criminal appeal of U.S. v. Warshak, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the government must have a search warrant before it can secretly seize and search emails stored by email service providers. Closely tracking arguments made by EFF in its amicus brief, the court found that email users have the same reasonable expectation of privacy in their stored email as they do in their phone calls and postal mail.
EFF filed a similar amicus brief with the 6th Circuit in 2006 in a civil suit brought by criminal defendant Warshak against the government for its warrantless seizure of his emails. There, the 6th Circuit agreed with EFF that email users have a Fourth Amendment-protected expectation of privacy in the email they store with their email providers, though that decision was later vacated on procedural grounds. Warshak's appeal of his criminal conviction has brought the issue back to the Sixth Circuit, and once again the court has agreed with EFF and held that email users have a Fourth Amendment-protected reasonable expectation of privacy in the contents of their email accounts.
As the Court held today,
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EFF filed a similar amicus brief with the 6th Circuit in 2006 in a civil suit brought by criminal defendant Warshak against the government for its warrantless seizure of his emails. There, the 6th Circuit agreed with EFF that email users have a Fourth Amendment-protected expectation of privacy in the email they store with their email providers, though that decision was later vacated on procedural grounds. Warshak's appeal of his criminal conviction has brought the issue back to the Sixth Circuit, and once again the court has agreed with EFF and held that email users have a Fourth Amendment-protected reasonable expectation of privacy in the contents of their email accounts.
As the Court held today,
Given the fundamental similarities between email and traditional forms of communication [like postal mail and telephone calls], it would defy common sense to afford emails lesser Fourth Amendment protection.... It follows that email requires strong protection under the Fourth Amendment; otherwise the Fourth Amendment would prove an ineffective guardian of private communication, an essential purpose it has long been recognized to serve.... [T]he police may not storm the post office and intercept a letter, and they are likewise forbidden from using the phone system to make a clandestine recording of a telephone call--unless they get a warrant, that is. It only stands to reason that, if government agents compel an ISP to surrender the contents of a subscriber's emails, those agents have thereby conducted a Fourth Amendment search, which necessitates compliance with the warrant requirement....
Today's decision is the only federal appellate decision currently on the books that squarely rules on this critically important privacy issue, an issue made all the more important by the fact that current federal law--in particular, the Stored Communications Act--allows the government to secretly obtain emails without a warrant in many situations. We hope that this ruling will spur Congress to update that law as EFF and its partners in the Digital Due Process coalition have urged, so that when the government secretly demands someone's email without probable cause, the email provider can confidently say: "Come back with a warrant."AttachmentSize
12-17-2010, 11:48 AM
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No one was ordered by the judge to fly overtime. What happened was that we had a few individuals who took it on themselves to be the overtime monitors. They harassed pilots who were flying GS's to include threatening calls to wives when their husbands were flying said trips. They also used email and web boards to do the same. That implies that they were not only idiots but also not very bright. This The actions of a few individuals undermined a very successful and legal grass roots effort to express dissatisfaction with management. No one can make you fly overtime or even answer your phone. If however you advocate to others that they follow your example then you are now involved in a illegal job action.
12-17-2010, 11:50 AM
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12-17-2010, 12:01 PM
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I think I made a good decision though. Talking to some folks, I guess its not going to be until net fall/winter that the additional 90's show up. I'll be halfway through my seatlock by then and will have the chance to come back to a more active 88/90 category fairly quickly if I decide to do that. Would hate to be commuting to reserve on the 88 and be better than 70 percent...
12-17-2010, 01:36 PM
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12-17-2010, 01:43 PM
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I keep getting a pop up in iCrew telling me to remember to bid my golden days for recurrent training. It tells me that I'm available for training between FEB 2011 and APR 2011. I've got vacation right in the middle of possible training (from 27FEB-05MAR).
Two questions.
1. I'm making vacation plans for this time. Can they schedule me for training over my vacation? What's the likelyhood?
ranger:
No. You can't train over vacation. Won't compute.
2. I went in and listed my golden day request to cover my vacation time. The repsonse from iCrew I got was "Training Request Accepted", almost as if I was asking for training on those days (vacation). Are these "golden days", the same as in the reserve system? Did I just screw myself......again?
Adust the Golden Day Window to precede your vacation, in that month, and to cover any other days in the remaining two months you need/want to avoid training. You may still fly/RES those days...Training exclusion only.
Bottomline, I've been with Delta for 3 years and this is the first week (yes one week) of vacation I've truly gotten since I've been here. RA made a comment the other day about how DL provides for vacation accural for military guys while on MLOA. Well....not so. This is the first 7 days in a row I have gotten completely off since 9/11/01 and I really don't want it messed with.
Two questions.
1. I'm making vacation plans for this time. Can they schedule me for training over my vacation? What's the likelyhood?
ranger:
No. You can't train over vacation. Won't compute.
2. I went in and listed my golden day request to cover my vacation time. The repsonse from iCrew I got was "Training Request Accepted", almost as if I was asking for training on those days (vacation). Are these "golden days", the same as in the reserve system? Did I just screw myself......again?
Adust the Golden Day Window to precede your vacation, in that month, and to cover any other days in the remaining two months you need/want to avoid training. You may still fly/RES those days...Training exclusion only.
Bottomline, I've been with Delta for 3 years and this is the first week (yes one week) of vacation I've truly gotten since I've been here. RA made a comment the other day about how DL provides for vacation accural for military guys while on MLOA. Well....not so. This is the first 7 days in a row I have gotten completely off since 9/11/01 and I really don't want it messed with.
Last edited by johnso29; 12-17-2010 at 02:40 PM. Reason: Fixed Quote
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