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Old 03-10-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Here's some great news. Citigroup reported today they are operating at a profit, & AT&T announced they would ADD 3000 jobs this year.

The market is doing well today off the Citigroup report. Let's hope we are seeing the begining of a rebound.

Then the "Messiah" will come on and talk about how bad things are and the market will tank again.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Here's some great news. Citigroup reported today they are operating at a profit, & AT&T announced they would ADD 3000 jobs this year.

The market is doing well today off the Citigroup report. Let's hope we are seeing the begining of a rebound.
Yep. I like the fact that I bought Citi, B of A and DAL last week!
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Now I do not know how we cannot furlough at least two to three hundred pilots with this announcement.
Your killin' me man. First you say furloughs are likely, then NO furloughs, now furloughs again. I know this industry is dynamic but please tell me you're not firing in all directions so you can come on here later and say I told you so a la Michael Boyd.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Then the "Messiah" will come on and talk about how bad things are and the market will tank again.
Maybe if he'd quit using terms like "catastrophe" and "depression" we might not actually go into one. Just shut up!! And negotiate with the Taliban while you're at it.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Your killin' me man. First you say furloughs are likely, then NO furloughs, now furloughs again. I know this industry is dynamic but please tell me you're not firing in all directions so you can come on here later and say I told you so a la Michael Boyd.
What I am saying that with this cut it would surprise me if we did not furlough 200-300 pilots. It is enough to make it dooable.
What I then stated what that it needs to be profitable for DAL to do so. With these cuts we are now right on the line. We might be able to make a business case for it. Other factors include all of the training that need to be done prior to SOC, and the fact that we have a lot of jets showing up that will probably offset the cuts. I also stated that the numbers had not been crunched.
If you look at the data with out all of the other circumstances that we DAL have (CPZ flow, the merger, a/c on order, furlough protection) it makes sense to let a few hundred go. If you add this stuff it gets very very close. I should have more of a firm answer in a day or two.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:46 AM
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ACL, are you gonna be at the MEC meeting friday?
I think those of us who go should wear our name tags with our APC name on them.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
ACL, are you gonna be at the MEC meeting friday?
I think those of us who go should wear our name tags with our APC name on them.
Oh no I would not want to do that.
I should be there. Depends on a few things that are brewing elsewhere.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
I think those of us who go should wear our name tags with our APC name on them.
I still suggest an APC reunion at some "watering hole" in ATL when all us "northies" (think tailies on Lost) come down for charm school. Only APC name tags allowed.

First class of 757 guys going through differences training are next month, don't know if it's in ATL, MSP or both.

I didn't make the cut, guess I'll have to make a Saipan run.......

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Old 03-10-2009, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
I still suggest an APC reunion at some "watering hole" in ATL when all us "northies" (think tailies on Lost) come down for charm school. Only APC name tags allowed.

First class of 757 guys going through differences training are next month, don't know if it's in ATL, MSP or both.

I didn't make the cut, guess I'll have to make a Saipan run.......

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I am hearing it is a five day course. Plenty of time to get in to trouble.
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I am hearing it is a five day course. Plenty of time to get in to trouble.
Ok, this one must be different..........just one day/4 hour sim. More to come?

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Dual Cue Flight Directors

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Flaps 25 landings

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RNAV/RNP approach training.

Vertical Speed Non-Precision Approach

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PS...off the subject, but you guys do dive and drive approaches vs VNav?
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