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12-10-2010, 02:48 PM

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caddis

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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot

I actually like the DAL rules better than the NWA rules. Well except for the 70 hour guarantee.

While there are some items better...less SC better LC rules. My big things are pay guarantee and the fact that they can hold on to you up to ALV, this month is 82 hours

12-10-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by caddis

While there are some items better...less SC better LC rules. My big things are pay guarantee and the fact that they can hold on to you up to ALV, this month is 82 hours

Didn't scheduling at NWA have reserves until almost 85 hours? That's what I remember.

12-10-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by satchip

As opposed to the politics free NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, New Republic, Time, Newsweek, USN&WR, etc etc etc? Need I go on?

That was not the implication, but rather the article implied that somehow the politics that occured in naming the NMB numbers was a surprise...nope just polictics as normal. You left out the FOX network.

12-10-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

Didn't scheduling at NWA have reserves until almost 85 hours? That's what I remember.

Thought it was after 75hrs, than you could decline any more assignments.

12-10-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbia

Thanks, Fedelta. Very interesting. I certainly would like to see more open discussions involving the streamling of payrates across fleets across the industry. I would guess many senior widebody pilots would love an opportunity to fly a 737 domestically, during the day, to include out and backs as long as they weren't significantly pay penalized. There's something to be said about crossing only 2 time zones and spending a long overnight in San Diego or NYC!

I also wonder how the bidding would go. I have heard that junior folks at UPS are generally 747 folks or at least it is an entrylevel position. I do not know how it would go at DAL. Based upon previous new hires going straight to the -er, it would appear that whoever wanted to fly international already was doing it. I really dont know.

Speaking for myself, I can hold narrow A and have zero intention of bidding it. People are wired differently and that is what makes our bidding system work currently. I'm an international guy way more than domestic.

12-10-2010, 03:33 PM

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scambo1

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Originally Posted by Hawaii50

One other thing. As the company has converted 767 domestic to 7ER categories, the short calls have gone from 12 hours to 24 hours long which really sucks IMO. We've have basically allowed them to reap the benefits of these conversions, including fewer reserves required in the combined category, without a peep from us.

All short calls should be 12 hours. Int'l categories have double the requirement of domestic.

12-10-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dragon

Can I have an AMEN!!

Who has a better reserve system than us, and what do they have? This is my first airline... I'm domestic, not subject to 24 hour short call, but I think that would blow. Other than that, most guys I talk to from other airlines don't have long call.

12-10-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FedElta

Here's the trick : use the reduction in training costs (big) and bump top tier pay for Carl, without a paycut for other groups....you could probably come close to cost-neutral for the company and give everyone an acceptable payrate increase, and better qol.

This is the nut of my idea. Use the money saved to give Carl a raise, then just roll everyone in behind him on the same scale.

That's using current contract numbers, of course. After that, go for a real raise for the whole group.

12-10-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ronnie75

While we need more transparency, to dump 24 hr short call, 75 hr guarantee and standard rigs for rsv, its really quite laid back and a decent system comparitively.

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