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12-10-2010, 10:54 AM
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How many hours do I need to get to before I can tell scheduling...no thanks I prefer not to fly. At NWA it was around 70:45 based on 75 hour guarantee. Do I need to get to 70 or ALV?
So if I proceed to try this strategy...it worked for me at NWA, should I YS or WS what works best?
So if I proceed to try this strategy...it worked for me at NWA, should I YS or WS what works best?
If you YS on a day off, you don't get the day back or any extra pay.
12-10-2010, 11:08 AM
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True, but if it get's you over the ALV, a YS gets you the rest of the month off. I managed to do that a couple of times this summer, but haven't even threatened to get over 70 since August.
12-10-2010, 11:09 AM
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Thanks flyer. In my short time on reserve, 10 days, I have come to believe our Res system is lacking.
Here are some of my main gripes.
1. 70 hours pay.
2. Why does a Res pilot get paid less on a trip then a Reg pilot?
3. 70 hours pay should mean if I get to 70 I should be done unless I want to fly more
4 Switching days off. There has to be a better way then the arbitrary capping of days.
5. RAW score...need I say more
I live in base and would be willing to sit Reserve on a regular basis if the pay and a few QOL items were fixed.
12-10-2010, 11:30 AM
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Yeah, our RSV rules SUCK.
12-10-2010, 11:39 AM
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12-10-2010, 11:42 AM
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Things need to change. RAW credit for SC, a methodical system to assign SC, a reserve availability list that shows ONLY those legal to fly, & a higher min guarantee, such as 75 hours for LC & 80 for SC.
12-10-2010, 12:09 PM
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12-10-2010, 01:35 PM
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12-10-2010, 01:59 PM
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Hey Satch,
Here's some background for ya': I spent 30 years at a purple cargo outfit with a unique payscale. We had Cap, fo/ so rates based on narrow body, and widebody rates going out to 15 years. later, we added A380 rates for that a/c alone.
When the a380 order was cancelled and the 777 substituted, the pilots/union lost a grievance for the 777 to pay 380 rates.....I'm sure the union boys will try to recover boosts to the 777 rate when the company comes sniffing for ULR rules.
Negotiated bumps are included for night/ intl/ etc. I felt this system was a good compromise between UPS ( cap or fo only ) and industry norm of a/c & seat specific.
It reduces the need to chase seats/ bases for a payraise, ie: the last years of my career, I stayed on the A300 instead of going to the MD11. Same pay, much better qol...for me.
The company wins with this system as it greatly reduces training events ,and keeps more guys actually available for line flying.
Here's the trick : use the reduction in training costs (big) and bump top tier pay for Carl, without a paycut for other groups....you could probably come close to cost-neutral for the company and give everyone an acceptable payrate increase, and better qol.
Maybe something like this: Super premium widebody(ha),744 &330,,,widebody,767.....narrow body, 757,MD90/88, A320/319, DC9.
Big bumps for night/ intl, etc.
I'm not advocating this, so save the arrows/ mortars, etc.......you asked how this might be implemented.
Regards
Here's some background for ya': I spent 30 years at a purple cargo outfit with a unique payscale. We had Cap, fo/ so rates based on narrow body, and widebody rates going out to 15 years. later, we added A380 rates for that a/c alone.
When the a380 order was cancelled and the 777 substituted, the pilots/union lost a grievance for the 777 to pay 380 rates.....I'm sure the union boys will try to recover boosts to the 777 rate when the company comes sniffing for ULR rules.
Negotiated bumps are included for night/ intl/ etc. I felt this system was a good compromise between UPS ( cap or fo only ) and industry norm of a/c & seat specific.
It reduces the need to chase seats/ bases for a payraise, ie: the last years of my career, I stayed on the A300 instead of going to the MD11. Same pay, much better qol...for me.
The company wins with this system as it greatly reduces training events ,and keeps more guys actually available for line flying.
Here's the trick : use the reduction in training costs (big) and bump top tier pay for Carl, without a paycut for other groups....you could probably come close to cost-neutral for the company and give everyone an acceptable payrate increase, and better qol.
Maybe something like this: Super premium widebody(ha),744 &330,,,widebody,767.....narrow body, 757,MD90/88, A320/319, DC9.
Big bumps for night/ intl, etc.
I'm not advocating this, so save the arrows/ mortars, etc.......you asked how this might be implemented.
Regards
12-10-2010, 02:46 PM
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Thanks flyer. In my short time on reserve, 10 days, I have come to believe our Res system is lacking.
Here are some of my main gripes.
1. 70 hours pay.
2. Why does a Res pilot get paid less on a trip then a Reg pilot?
3. 70 hours pay should mean if I get to 70 I should be done unless I want to fly more
4 Switching days off. There has to be a better way then the arbitrary capping of days.
5. RAW score...need I say more
I live in base and would be willing to sit Reserve on a regular basis if the pay and a few QOL items were fixed.
Here are some of my main gripes.
1. 70 hours pay.
2. Why does a Res pilot get paid less on a trip then a Reg pilot?
3. 70 hours pay should mean if I get to 70 I should be done unless I want to fly more
4 Switching days off. There has to be a better way then the arbitrary capping of days.
5. RAW score...need I say more
I live in base and would be willing to sit Reserve on a regular basis if the pay and a few QOL items were fixed.
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