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Old 12-09-2010, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
We were not lucky to have no pilots furloughed. It was a carefully planned and executed strategy to over time layer in multiple financial penalties if the company were to attempt to furlough. I listened to Lee Moak talk about how to prevent furloughs right after he was elected and he detailed exactly what came to pass. Smart moves by the union prevented the furloughs not luck.
Bingo! Every Delta pilot below TK owes his job to Lee Moak. Without this strategy he devised and guided, there would have been furloughs. I'm sure RA also thanks him too. Had they furloughed they would not have been able to catch the traffic recovery wave.

That's why I support DALPA.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The other one is to have the carrier perform less of it flying. (Outsourcing)

Therefore, everyone needs to keep their eye on the ball and not sell one ounce of scope. It is a lot easier for DAL to only train the top end well the bottom end gets handed to DCI. If that does not happen, the need here for pilots becomes great.
Ding ding ding.

Cant overstress enough that progression plus pay rates makes for happy pilots.
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by boog123
I think we are down 70 plus mainline airframes since the merger (60 plus DC-9's, 319's and 747-200 while adding only 15ish)
We have added as far as I know the following aircraft since the merger. 10 737-700's. Two 737-800's, 2 777's and 33 MD-90's for a total of 47 new airframes. Most of the 49 total MD-90's have not hit the line but will in the next 12 months.

What you are not mentioning however is how many aircraft Delta and NW had in storage. By June all stored aircraft will be back flying. This is another 40 plus airframes. In addition the flying 757 fleet was way under utilized and block hours are up on each airframe. In the end the only thing that matters to pilots is total block hours not airframes.
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:20 PM
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Sailing, that is correct. I care about block hrs, because that is what is used to staff seats, not ASM's.
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
By June all stored aircraft will be back flying. This is another 40 plus airframes. In addition the flying 757 fleet was way under utilized and block hours are up on each airframe. In the end the only thing that matters to pilots is total block hours not airframes.
Great news. We're getting our Freighters and DC-9-30s/40s back
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Old 12-09-2010, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
Great news. We're getting our Freighters and DC-9-30s/40s back
I referred to aircraft placed in flyable storage for possible return to the line. They will all be back in June. Most are back now.
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Old 12-09-2010, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I referred to aircraft placed in flyable storage for possible return to the line. They will all be back in June. Most are back now.
Yes, & I believe several of the 767-300's were scheduled to be chopped up so it's great news that they're coming out. Plus, as mentioned before, during the oil spike of 08 block hours on the 757 were pulled waaaay down so uping the utilization will create more 7ER openings.
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I like that idea but you would have to phase it in. No way you would get the 777/747 captains to agree to a pay cut.
Who said anything about a pay cut?
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:50 PM
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Yes, & I believe several of the 767-300's were scheduled to be chopped up so it's great news that they're coming out. Plus, as mentioned before, during the oil spike of 08 block hours on the 757 were pulled waaaay down so uping the utilization will create more 7ER openings.
Yep, those ER's have been making their way over to HKG over the last few weeks for their D Checks.
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