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Old 12-08-2010, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
I just flew with a FNW pilot and asked him about this. He used to be on the 747-400 and flew with all of the senior guys. Anyways, he indicated that the red book / green book hatred runs pretty deep. I guess that the green book guys are just getting on the 747 (or within the last few years) and are staying around (despite almost working for free because of their retirements) hoping to block the red book guys off the 747 until the DL/NW fences fall in four years so that the former Delta guys can bid the airplane and keep the old red book guys out of it.

At least that's how he explained it. Nothing like working for free just out of spite.
I have no doubt that some guys habored some unjustified hatred, but for the most part there was very few of them...and it wouldn't have mattered if they had got everything they wanted, they still would not have liked it. I would really doubt the blocking thing...to each their own.
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy

I've only flown with one guy who wished he could work until he was 70 (serious ) other than that most guys really want out and as soon as it makes financial sense to them, I think they'll be gone before 65.
Rocky if he was a MSP Captain I think I may have flown with him recently. He is an over 60 guy that thinks we are overstaffed because he does not get green slips. He also flies 90+ hours a month... after I told him to get a life the rest of the trip was very quiet.
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Random AE thought... Seems to be alot of 737s in DTW today. Any rumors of rebasing them here?
DTW is almost all I do these days out of LAX. In fact, going there again tomorrow from SFO. Makes sense. Might be a good place for the CVG 73s to go if/when we ever close that base.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Out of those 194, 109 of them were PRIPs.
Aw c'mon PG perp just sounds better.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
I have no doubt that some guys habored some unjustified hatred, but for the most part there was very few of them...and it wouldn't have mattered if they had got everything they wanted, they still would not have liked it. I would really doubt the blocking thing...to each their own.
I agree. I've sat through my share of red/green discussions but I can only think of one guy that would be this bitter..........and he is on the A330.

I think most of the over 60 fNWA guys are still here because of the price of health insurance post retirement.

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Old 12-08-2010, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
I think most of the over 60 fNWA guys are still here because of the price of health insurance post retirement.

JMHO
I wonder if the company takes that into account nowadays where changing that might cause more guys to leave then can be replaced if the school house is full for the forseeable future. Just a thought.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
I just flew with a FNW pilot and asked him about this. He used to be on the 747-400 and flew with all of the senior guys. Anyways, he indicated that the red book / green book hatred runs pretty deep. I guess that the green book guys are just getting on the 747 (or within the last few years) and are staying around (despite almost working for free because of their retirements) hoping to block the red book guys off the 747 until the DL/NW fences fall in four years so that the former Delta guys can bid the airplane and keep the old red book guys out of it.

At least that's how he explained it. Nothing like working for free just out of spite.
I don't believe it's actually hatred that's keeping them here. What I see a lot of is guys who have never been able to hold a wide body aircraft and now can. They have gotten a big bump in pay from the 320 and such plus they now are only doing 1 leg a day max. They see it as a pretty cushy place. This along with the retirement insurance costs, well.....
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:30 PM
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Hey,

I don't have my FOM handy. Holiday ties are ok all month, right?

Don't want to show up tomorrow looking like a bigger rube than I normally am.

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Old 12-08-2010, 06:59 PM
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Ferd, from Thanksgiving day until New Year's.
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Hey,

I don't have my FOM handy. Holiday ties are ok all month, right?

Don't want to show up tomorrow looking like a bigger rube than I normally am.

Ferd
Yep. Let 'er rip!
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