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Old 12-01-2010, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Ex: Your trip gets off at 9pm. You could be rerouted into a trip thats get off at 1am. Thats next calender day but four hours later.
Wow! More crap.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Wow! More crap.
Not as bad as the rules that prevent us from moving X days and trading trips. Why can't we move/trade something inside of 72 hours?? The LC window is 12 so it has no effect whatsoever on covering a trip as long as it is outside of 12 hours.

Also, PBS gives me one day off between on call days TWICE in the month of December but I can't move X-days that will create another single X day between on call days. PBS is getting very good at building reserve schedules that will not allow you to move any days due to these rules by violating the same rules when building your schedule.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:58 PM
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PBS will also put up to 9 reserve days in a row which I don't have a problem with, but then you can't put more than 6 in a row when trying to swap things around. Frustrating that it's not a two way street.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Johnso;
I would also not remind scheduling to remove you from your tip. Even though it shows L or I on the trip, until you are called, you are not notified. Ergo, if you report for the trip, 23.K gets a lot muddier
How does it get muddier? It still applies.

If you are a commuter, better to get released and not commute at all.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:03 PM
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I had a line check recently. The LCA told me they no longer require you to ride along on the first couple of legs. Anyway, I had a 4 day trip recently that had OE on it. They called me about 7 am the morning prior to remove me from the trip. My trip didn't report until the next evening. So I had a 30 plus hour heads up. At 12 hours prior, there was nothing on my schedule so I was free of obligation. It is not 23K stuff. This falls under 23G. They can only give you something on the first day after white slips. Make sure to put in preference qualifiers. I chose the shortest trip possible. Why work more when you will get paid for the original trip anyway? You are not officially notified until they call you. I had to go into Icrew to acknowledge that the rotation was removed.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:11 PM
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Depends. On an Asia flight I recently DHed on, I sat next to a FO who was going along for the entire trip. The LCA stated that the FO was not qualified until he gave him his line check and he was not going to do that until the leg home. Ergo, he could not sit up front with someone besides another LCA. SO this FO got to DH all over the world.

I find it weird, but this guy was doing it. No kidding.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:13 PM
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Johonso. It is of course not a line holders responsibility to check his schedule like a reserve pilot. You notify after the awarded trips are on your LOT the month prior.

If they pull your trip, it is their obligation to call you.

Scambo;
If you report for the original trip, you are then under the control of the LCA. He can release you at the gate as I have had done many times. They may or may not have recovery at that time.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:53 PM
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You guys are killing me. Lol

Do I pref via recovery flying, or just lay low & hope they miss it?

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Old 12-01-2010, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
If you report for the original trip, you are then under the control of the LCA. He can release you at the gate as I have had done many times. They may or may not have recovery at that time.
How would you have any recovery time? As I understand it, if they don't give you another trip 12 hours prior to your original trip........your done

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PS.........glad you didn't hit the KAL's memorial mountain on Guam
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Johonso. It is of course not a line holders responsibility to check his schedule like a reserve pilot. You notify after the awarded trips are on your LOT the month prior.

If they pull your trip, it is their obligation to call you.

Scambo;
If you report for the original trip, you are then under the control of the LCA. He can release you at the gate as I have had done many times. They may or may not have recovery at that time.
If a notification attempt is not made at least 12 hours prior to the scheduled
report of his originally scheduled rotation, the pilot will have no recovery obligation.
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