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Old 11-23-2010, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
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That is the logic used on the MD-90 so it makes a ton of sense to me. The only issue with the 717 is those darn engines.
Had an Air Tran J/S tell me the 717 engines are sometimes having TBO's as low as 1500-2000 hours. If true, that's painful! Even though we do On-Condition, our adjusted TBO on our engines is somewhere between 10000-20000 hours.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Bill I like your dots. A buddy of mine that works over in the LUV corporate offices seems to think that they will want to do away with their 717's as well. The Click Jets are up to 25 total, so that would be a nice add on to these. If we pull the trigger great, I just like the fact that we are looking at airplanes.

As for the WB jets, we need em. They just pulled DTW and MSP to HNL because they do not have enough WB jets to fly what they want flown, so if we can get some cheap we will get em. I know Jet Star had three 777-200LR's they were shedding too. Emirates is shedding a bunch of their jets as they take delivery of new ones as well. There are a few white tail 744's, 330's, 320's on the used market as well. There are a bunch of 320's with 20K-55K hr on them that are for sale at 6-12 million a copy too. All of those would be great additions to our fleet. I figure we look at all of them.

On your hiring number, that seems to be the constant rumor, but it needed board approval before they hit the execute button.
MSP-HNL and DTW-HNL combined are only one city pair. Service alternated days between those hubs. Rumor is they needed the hulls for the new Africa route. Interesting that they decided to stop flying to hawaii in the cold months. First quarter is always chock full of sporting events in hawaii.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:10 AM
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RNP might drive the DC9 replacement by 717, even if the DC9s are paid for...

just sayin' ;-)


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Old 11-23-2010, 08:11 AM
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I found the fact that they stopped that service telling as well. I wonder if HI will announce new service on their new 330's.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Had an Air Tran J/S tell me the 717 engines are sometimes having TBO's as low as 1500-2000 hours. If true, that's painful! Even though we do On-Condition, our adjusted TBO on our engines is somewhere between 10000-20000 hours.

oooooooh that would suck wouldn't it?
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:57 AM
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[QUOTE=acl65pilot;905691]The reserve required number is what matters. In a month that does not have a PCS multiplier of 1.5 that is the number that the computer respects.

Not that reserve required number is a interesting animal and probably needs some tweaking on the next contract.

Right. That's why immediately after the schedules are pushed to DBMS they have some days with 50% manning and some days with 150% manning. That's the best PBS can do? Really? If they honor it or not is random. Just like the entire reserve system.

And, the RAW score is a way of getting you to work 33% more than a line holder for 75% of the cash while abrogating your seniority.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I'm all for new hires, so I won't say we won't hire that amount, I'm just saying that who knows. Retirements aren't required yet, and we are seeing big majority of pilots stay past 60.
I think everyone knew guys would stay past 60. The big question is what would they do at 62.5 which is when if makes sense to bail out with regards to retirement accounts, Medicare, etc. I think we will see alot more guys start leaving between 62.5 and 65. If the market would rebound a little more that number would go even higher....I think that is what is keeping guys around. Nobody want's to leave when all their investments are still down.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:03 AM
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Like it or not on the south side, that retirement medical thing seems to prevent a lot of potential retirees from pulling the trigger.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:33 AM
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Do many or any of the rumors discussed here come to fruiation?
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
Do many or any of the rumors discussed here come to fruiation?
Depends which ones you're referring to.

SOME of the rumors on here have been started by devious individuals, just to see if their rumor will make it all the way back around to them.

OTOH, there is something to the whole "where there's smoke, there's fire." Several folks on this board seem to be pretty well connected, and it seems that most (not all) big announcements are led a little bit by chatter on the L & G thread.

In my unscientific observation, AE plans/dates/alignment discussions are the most accurate. Aircraft acquisitions/fleet plans tend to border more on the imaginative end of the spectrum. The accuracy of most other rumors (including hiring rumors) tend to fall somewhere in between. Of course there is a reason for this. AE's WILL happen will some regularity, allowing the rumor sources to appear a little more accurate, where if/when we actually take delivery of aircraft is anyone's guess.

Hope that helps, unless you were being rhetorical, in which case I just wasted 3 minutes of my time
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