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11-11-2010, 07:00 PM
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11-11-2010, 07:11 PM
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This letter is a day late and a dollar short. ALPA felt the heat. That letter is nothing but damage control because other unions were making this a priority, because it was a priority to its members (something ALPA has forgotten). Even if they want to move on a national issue, there are so many layers of bureaucracy, it takes forever and their response is limp. How long did it take APA, CAPA and Sully to comment on the proposed FT/DT. I would bet it was within 24 hours. ALPA gave the usual we have to look at it. It looked almost just like their initial proposal, except ALPA proposed 9 hours. Now they say, buried in one of their blathering letters, there is no scientific evidence that 10 flight hours is safe. How long did that take, a week or two? Guess what, there is no scientific evidence 9 hours is safe, which is what ALPA proposed. Insert camel's nose. Hard to hold the line on 8 now huh? We have some of the most important regs in front of us in a generation. ALPA is not getting the job done. If they have such connections in DC, why in the he)) have we been subjected to this BS over the past 9 years?
Sailing, sometimes a slap to the face is exactly what is needed to get someones attention. Maybe if we had a union that did a little more slapping and less kissing, more would get done. Maybe if their responses were consistently "swift and certain", more would get done. What has been coming out of ALPA these days is neither consistent, swift or certain. I have no idea what side of the argument my union is going to take on any given issue. I used to think safety, since it is in their motto, was a sure bet. Not anymore.
Sailing, sometimes a slap to the face is exactly what is needed to get someones attention. Maybe if we had a union that did a little more slapping and less kissing, more would get done. Maybe if their responses were consistently "swift and certain", more would get done. What has been coming out of ALPA these days is neither consistent, swift or certain. I have no idea what side of the argument my union is going to take on any given issue. I used to think safety, since it is in their motto, was a sure bet. Not anymore.
11-11-2010, 07:30 PM
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I do. They are going to take the side that serves the ALPA National agenda and purpose. They will not take any side that threatens their existance, revenue stream, or path to the lucrative consulting or government job.
I am having a much harder time seeing how change from within can ever happen. It might really be time for that change.
The old saying about burn the house down starts to make sense. Maybe we should and collect all the nails like they did on the frontier. Then, travel on and build again.
11-11-2010, 07:35 PM
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This letter is a day late and a dollar short. ALPA felt the heat. That letter is nothing but damage control because other unions were making this a priority, because it was a priority to its members (something ALPA has forgotten). Even if they want to move on a national issue, there are so many layers of bureaucracy, it takes forever and their response is limp. How long did it take APA, CAPA and Sully to comment on the proposed FT/DT. I would bet it was within 24 hours. ALPA gave the usual we have to look at it. It looked almost just like their initial proposal, except ALPA proposed 9 hours. Now they say, buried in one of their blathering letters, there is no scientific evidence that 10 flight hours is safe. How long did that take, a week or two? Guess what, there is no scientific evidence 9 hours is safe, which is what ALPA proposed. Insert camel's nose. Hard to hold the line on 8 now huh? We have some of the most important regs in front of us in a generation. ALPA is not getting the job done. If they have such connections in DC, why in the he)) have we been subjected to this BS over the past 9 years?
Sailing, sometimes a slap to the face is exactly what is needed to get someones attention. Maybe if we had a union that did a little more slapping and less kissing, more would get done. Maybe if their responses were consistently "swift and certain", more would get done. What has been coming out of ALPA these days is neither consistent, swift or certain. I have no idea what side of the argument my union is going to take on any given issue. I used to think safety, since it is in their motto, was a sure bet. Not anymore.
Sailing, sometimes a slap to the face is exactly what is needed to get someones attention. Maybe if we had a union that did a little more slapping and less kissing, more would get done. Maybe if their responses were consistently "swift and certain", more would get done. What has been coming out of ALPA these days is neither consistent, swift or certain. I have no idea what side of the argument my union is going to take on any given issue. I used to think safety, since it is in their motto, was a sure bet. Not anymore.
11-11-2010, 07:36 PM
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If DALPA said they no longer wanted to support ALPA National then I wonder what the support level of the funding class would be for DALPA? My bet is probably 95%?
11-11-2010, 07:47 PM
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Hey FTB, don't FTB
11-11-2010, 08:01 PM
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11-11-2010, 08:14 PM
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On a day nobody saw coming, DALPA promotes and wins de-certification of ALPA.
Notice Carl is not wearing the proper uniform?
11-11-2010, 08:17 PM
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11-11-2010, 08:28 PM
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