Hawaii50

In touch with their members? USAPA? An association formed specifically to screw over half a pilot group? That's some funny stuff.

buzzpat

The times I've gone through BWI it's been one dude, a laptop and a link to CASS. I even peered over his shoulder once just to see how absolutely effortless it is. It's s no brainer.

PilotFrog

Well I found out that the flight will be the "afternoon" flight and although it arrives at 10 pm won't be considered a late flight and therefore only need 2 pilots. I know how mountonous it is, I bid it every chance I could.

Pineapple Guy

Would you rather them put out a harsh public message, or work behind the scenes to resolve the issue?

As sailingfun stated so eloquently, its kind of hard to work out a compromise solution behind the scenes AFTER you punch your opponent in the face in public.

PilotFrog

How come we don't get someone like Zappos.com to provide the money. Get some corporation to get a little advertisement as each pilot and FA goes through. Get the computers and database server hosting by Apple and as each pilot and FA goes through you can have a loudspeaker or flashing billboard say "SAFE Flying, Brought to you by the iPAD"

newKnow

Let me fix your post to my liking......



Answer: YES.

Let me disagree with you and sailing here....

Why does a harsh, responsive message have to be viewed as a public punch in the face? Surely, with the amount of talent we have, we can craft a message that gets our point across without hurting the other party's feelings. Hell, maybe it will even teach the powers that be to think before the legislate the next time.

Sometimes you have to let out a bark to let people know there is a dog in the yard.....

hoserpilot

Alpa should have worded the Oct message differently. That message came across as weak and pathetic. While throwing stones may not have the desired affect it does give the impression that the union is on our side and not managements. If Alpa had just asked all flight crews to avoid the backscatter machines and report excessive molestation I'd be happy. If they told us they were working towards a compromise with the TSA and had meetings set up within the next two weeks that would help too. Get it Alpa??? We want communication of upcoming events, not just stuff that happened last week. I appreciate what has been behind the scenes but don't be such a NANCY!!!!! Quit with the political correctness crap....your a union with 10's of thousands of members...get tougher. Our own MEC should have grown a pair as well. They should take a PUBLIC stand against this. CNN is in our backyard...use them to our advantage.

hockeypilot44

I want ALPA to do both. I'm tired of ALPA's politically correct bullsh!t statements. ALPA needs to put out simpler, clearer statements that represent the view of the pilots. Every single time I read an ALPA statement, I smile at the thought of them being de-certified.

finis72

The disgruntled NW pilots answer to USAPA, The silent majority at Delta will crush the DPA vote. Just my opinion.

sailingfun

Yep, the exact same thing happened after the Western merger. I doubt it will even get close to a vote.