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Medical Question???

My 11 year old just diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes. Trying to sort through all the plans. Anyone have a suggestion/experience as to which plan works the best for diabetes. Do any of the options have the byram plan. Sorry for the off subject question, but any thoughts would help, please PM. Thanks.

Check Essential

Why it happened is easy. Its contractual. White slips go before swaps. (Section 23.E.2)

The logic is less apparent. I imagine they designed it that way for a couple reasons. The guy submitting a white slip is theoretically "short" for the month. He gets first crack at filling up his schedule before the swaps can grab a higher time trip. Second, the company benefits because a white slip eats up more open time than a swap.

UncleSam

Nope, white slips are awarded beginning with the first PCS run for the entire month. Many folks will wait until that last chance the day before the trip just to see if something better shows up.

GunshipGuy

Sure it's the medium, but like mdmax says...inside of two days. A WEEK OUT? Doesn't seem kosher to me. Now I am looking at this as if it were a WS to a reserve pilot. If it went to another reg line holder who wasn't swapping, but instead was just picking it up then I have to ask (since I'm not a line holder and am not familiar)--is that treated differently (e.g. does a WS take precedent over a swap)?


Disregard...Essential addressed it.

acl65pilot

When I flew a line I would bid min credit and WS on the first PCS run, as Uncle Sam has said. Let me find the contractual reference for everyone....

acl65pilot

Section 23. P

P. White Slips
1. A regular pilot may, via DBMS, submit a white slip for open time:
a. in category, in the current or next bid period, if he will be in the category of the open
time on the day it originates, and
b. in a different category (i.e., out-of-base) for same-day/next-day open time, if he will
be in the position of the open time on the day it originates.
2. A white slip may stipulate specific rotations and/or specific dates, in order of preference
and may also include any of the stipulations set forth in the PCS template.
3. White slip lists will be produced for each category each day after 0700E and 1800E.
4. White slips will be processed under Section 23 E., N. or O., subject to the following:
a. A white slip for open time that is covered between 0800 and 1800 (pilot’s base time)
must be submitted before 0700E of the current day.
Exception: A white slip request submitted after 0700E of the current day will be
considered in seniority order after those requests submitted by 0700E.
b. A white slip for open time that is covered between 1800 of the current day and 0800
of the next day (pilot’s base time) must be submitted before 1800E of the current day.
Exception: A white slip request submitted after 1800E of the current day will be
considered in seniority order after those requests submitted by 1800E.
c. Open time awards under Section 23 N. or O. will be based on the most recent white
slip list.
d. White slips for beyond-next-day open time will be processed during each PCS run. A
rotation award will be placed on a pilot’s schedule. (see Section 23 E.)
e. A pilot will not be awarded a white slip for same-day/next-day open time that
includes special airport/route qualifications for which he is not qualified.
f. A pilot will not be awarded a white slip for a rotation that originates in the current bid
period that would create an FAR and/or PWA conflict with a rotation previously
awarded/assigned in the current bid period. (i.e., no loop-back to undo a previously
awarded/assigned rotation).
5. When awarding a white slip in a time critical assignment (i.e., a rotation that is scheduled
to depart within three hours of attempted contact):
a. the Company will:
1) attempt to contact the pilot using at least two telephone numbers listed in DBMS,
and
2) afford the pilot accepting the award the reporting time ability of a short call
reserve pilot.
b. a pilot who cannot be contacted or who declines the award (this is a proffer) will be
by-passed without pay protection.
6. A white slip will remain active for processing until:
a. the stipulations in the white slip have been met,
b. the time frame specified by the pilot expires, or
c. the pilot withdraws the white slip.
7. A pilot will not be awarded a white slip if:
a. the credit of the rotation would cause his projection to exceed the ALV plus 15 hours,
b. the block time of the rotation would cause his total projected block time for the bid
period to exceed his block hour limit,
c. he is a low-time Captain and the rotation was previously awarded to a low-time First
Officer,
d. he is a low-time First Officer and the rotation was previously awarded to a low-time
Captain,
e. he has not completed OE,
f. the rotation creates a rotation overlap and/or is within 30 minutes of creating an FAR
and/or PWA conflict,
Exception one: This 30 minute limitation does not apply to the pilot’s block hour
limit. (Section 12 B.)
Exception two: A pilot may be awarded a white slip in the current bid period that
will create an FAR and/or PWA conflict with a rotation in the next bid period. The
conflicting rotation in the next bid period will be removed from the pilot’s line. The
pilot’s projection/line guarantee will be reduced by the credit of the removed rotation.
g. the open time includes a day on which APD appears on his schedule or a reserve day
on which PD appears on his schedule,
h. the rotation does not conform with his stipulations entered under Section 23 P. 2., or
i. the open time is scheduled to operate during a period(s) of his absence due to sick
leave.
8. An out-of-base pilot will:
a. receive pay, credit and per diem for the white slip rotation(s) beginning at his report
for the rotation at the base at which the rotation originates and ending at his release at
such base.
b. not be reimbursed for transportation, lodging, and per diem before his report to and
after his release from the white slip rotation(s).
c. not be awarded a white slip for open time that includes special airport/route
qualifications or an aircraft model for which he is not qualified.
d. be required to be available at the base where the rotation was scheduled to originate
in order to satisfy his recovery obligations under Section 23 K.
e. be considered to be based, for reroute purposes, at the base where the rotation was
scheduled to originate.
9. Out-of-base white slips will only be considered for same-day/next-day open time.

johnso29

I think it's wise for the company to hold off on a big bid with new categories. Training is already so far behind we are going to have a lot of guys getting a paid Christmas off and possibly more. They need to catch up first.

Columbia

Does that pay more than a paid channukkah off?

RockyBoy

A bump in this case would only be given as taxable income. The limit is $49,000 total. The bump is for guys over 50 to catchup themselves. For 2010 you can put in $16,500 yourself and an additional $5,500 yourself to catchup. The total amount put in however can still not exceed $49,000 the extra catchup contribution only allows YOU to contribute more.

The company can give us more than the $49K through the plans, but it would be treated as taxable income. I like your thinking on this issue. Having a DC contribution amount that would put $49K in every 12 year captains account would be much better than the old DB plan.....at least for the younger crowd and is the best shot for the older guys to get close to what they may have had.

johnso29

So the newhires will be hitting the line for observation flights soon. If they're in the jumpseat that we booked for work do we get a seat instead? Or are they booked a seat, and we will get their seat while they sit in the Jumpseat? Or are we as Commuters just kicked aside?