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11-07-2010, 04:30 PM
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OK, what we have here is a failure to communicate. I suppose I should have thrown in a few 
's and a TIC here and there.
Short call is a part of this job, regardless if you commute or not.
I thought my post had an appropriate level of sarcasm for most on this board to realize.
's and a TIC here and there.Short call is a part of this job, regardless if you commute or not.
I thought my post had an appropriate level of sarcasm for most on this board to realize.
No problem at all. I totally understood your post and agree with it. I was just using it to make a different point. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
11-07-2010, 04:31 PM
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No, I get it. 0330 sucks no matter where you are. But I get 0400, 0500, 0600, 0700 SC's all the time. Those would be bad for a commuter too. Where do you draw the line on a good time to begin SC?
At the risk of being labeled an ALPA sympathizer, they're really not to blame for that.
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11-07-2010, 04:38 PM
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11-07-2010, 04:46 PM
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Well, a year ago there was no SC before 10:00am, and despite them lasting 24 hours one could commute up that day, and home the next. Now it is common to spend two nights away from the family every SC one has. I just don't see the need for it. Is it a revenge? Is it hatriat to the pilots? Or do they really need it? They also put us on for 24 hours since we are "international" category. There is not one trip in open time going international for this entire month. So what I am saying is, make the SC 12 hours long or give me a time were as I can be rested and in position for a long international flight. Makes sense, doesn't it?
I have no idea. Pretty sure it's not revenge, hatred of pilots, or if they really need it. Open time comes and goes like the wind around here...there was none in my category today until the 20th, but I checked what was given out today, and they gave out 5 green slips.
In a perfect world, I'd love for you to run scheduling, but you don't have the big picture.
Rumor has it, the big picture used to be kept inside the hangar door down in TPA. I saw it briefly one time, but they made me leave, so I really didn't get a good look.
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11-07-2010, 04:47 PM
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Since DTW is under utilized and ATL does have a on time dep and arr problem, plus an extremely low O&D, perhaps more traffic will be flowing through DTW and out of ATL, just a thought to balence it out
11-07-2010, 04:52 PM
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Viking -
I have no idea. Pretty sure it's not revenge, hatred of pilots, or if they really need it. Open time comes and goes like the wind around here...there was none in my category today until the 20th, but I checked what was given out today, and they gave out 5 green slips.
In a perfect world, I'd love for you to run scheduling, but you don't have the big picture.
Rumor has it, the big picture used to be kept inside the hangar door down in TPA. I saw it briefly one time, but they made me leave, so I really didn't get a good look.
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11-07-2010, 05:05 PM
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Agreed. Sad that a guy in the peak of his career probably just threw away everything he's worked for, for the last 20+ years, for a few drinks on the layover.
How did it get that far? What was he thinking? Where was someone else on the crew to say, "dude, you're sick, call in sick. Now. If you don't, I'll do it for you."?
Sad that his wife? college aged kids? now wonder how things will ever be the same again.
Look out for your crew. Your career is extremely fragile - use your head and take care of each other.
How did it get that far? What was he thinking? Where was someone else on the crew to say, "dude, you're sick, call in sick. Now. If you don't, I'll do it for you."?
Sad that his wife? college aged kids? now wonder how things will ever be the same again.
Look out for your crew. Your career is extremely fragile - use your head and take care of each other.
Good post. Absolutely make the guy call in sick. If I was in that situation (being the sober pilot) and the drunk one didn't want to call in, I'D call in sick. That flight will not leave, and I'll do everything I can to protect the other guy. After we get back to the hotel, we'll be sitting down to have a little chat.
11-07-2010, 05:20 PM
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Good post. Absolutely make the guy call in sick. If I was in that situation (being the sober pilot) and the drunk one didn't want to call in, I'D call in sick. That flight will not leave, and I'll do everything I can to protect the other guy. After we get back to the hotel, we'll be sitting down to have a little chat.
Easier said than done. Seriously. Do you you think he had a sign hanging around his neck?
11-07-2010, 05:34 PM
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So let's say you (the sober one) call in sick. Your airline reroutes another pilot to take your place for that flight. Now what?
11-07-2010, 06:01 PM
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