sailingfun

Its been covered before but there is little chance of success. The company is not going to give out pay free pay raises to the pilot group not spelled out in the contract. In fact its doubtful the company would even meet to discuss the issue. Any changes will have to come with the new contract 4 or 5 years from now.
The only chance to effect a chance would be if the company got in a bind with a operational need that conflicts with the current contract. If that were to occur then they might be willing to trade the pay rates. That is also somewhat unlikely as most of those type issues have been worked out and it would have to be something with a like dollar value.

Justdoinmyjob

The problem is that they all looked like that about 40 years ago.

Doug Masters

I agree. The time to do this was a few years ago when the -700 rates were brought up to the -800 as a condition of the merger. We had leverage then and didn't bother...

Sink r8

I recall the company put together some sort of "council" thing which (amazingly) took the position that would make it easiest for the company to integrate the groups, and in the same process shut the AFA up: they took the AFA merger policy approach and said DOH was fine. So I think it's done.

sailingfun

DOH looks like a done deal. There are however other issues that have to be worked out. As a example how do you handle the Delta AFP bases. Do those flight attendants return to their permanent base or get to stay in the AFP base? Does a SEA DAL south flight attendant get to stay in SEA after the merger which she could not hold as a permanent position or does she return to SLC. There are many issues of this type that need to be worked out. It should go quickly but wont be over night.

acl65pilot

Sink,
That is what I recall as well. Wonder if they will implement it today.

As Sailing points out, there will be a few issues, but they will want to get this done asap.

forgot to bid

Sailing, couldn't it be like LAX where the "Jr" FAs get to stay that were already there but if they bid out then they may not be able to get back in?

Check Essential

They can't implement anything yet. The AFA has a grace period to file objections to the election. I wanna say its 10 days but I'm not sure. Until then, its sort of like our "status quo". Management can't do anything until that grace period ends. And then if they do file objections, the "status quo" continues while the NMB investigates.

The AFA press release says they will file objections, so this thing could go on for months.

The union has all sorts of examples of "management interference" ready to go. Some of them are just strange. ie = Breast cancer month and the flight attendant activities associated with that constituted "interference" with the election. Jeans, t-shirts, etc. and relaxing the normal uniform rules during the vote were illegal changes in working conditions.
Stuff like that.

Possibly a more serious objection has to do with the timing of the profit sharing.

Check Essential

If you want to read a NMB finding where Delta management did improperly interfere in a union election -- here is an example from the simulator tech dispute:

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2010/37n053.pdf
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edit: I used the wrong legal term when I said "status quo". That's for contract negotiations.
For an election dispute the Board calls it "laboratory conditions".
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Based upon the totality of circumstances, the Board finds that the laboratory conditions required for a fair election were tainted. This conclusion is based on the timing of Delta’s announcement of a pay increase during the laboratory period and coercive one-on-one meetings held by a management official during the laboratory period. Therefore, the Board ORDERS a re-run election using Telephone Electronic Voting (TEV) and Internet voting, with the Board’s standard voting procedures.

scambo1

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So I guess you think the pay raise resolution that is passing thru the various LECs is doomed as well?