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Old 11-03-2010, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
I know Jug, you've never been a smart ass, seriously.

I've never gotten into specifics with them because I don't care that much. I'm one of those business majors who believes that in a perfect world there is no need for unions. However, the airline industry has proven to me there is no perfect world

In general, they are a beat child. NWA really did treat them like vending machines and the union was seen as a safety net. Find holes in the safety net? Replace the union, ie why they are in their 3rd union in the 15 years I've been here.

So, time will tell how this thing goes. I agree with Sink on how this thing probably should go forward.

For a "southie", I just need to warn you that you are perceived as part of the problem......as allied with "your FAs" thus against them. So for the short term, I suggest trying to "out nice" them

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Good to know I'm part of the problem. Deep down, I'm really a kool-aid drinking, company man (like so many of the Southies are).

I'll keep on doing what most of us already do, and have a distant, aloof, professional relationship with them. Since my legs mostly include BNA, RDU, and LGA (vs your Siapan (see, I don't even know the identifier)), I'll get my own Coke Zero, SunChips and trash bag.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
For a "southie", I just need to warn you that you are perceived as part of the problem......as allied with "your FAs" thus against them. So for the short term, I suggest trying to "out nice" them
Understood, thanks. I'll try to kill them with kindness, and pack PowerBars nonetheless.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Good to know I'm part of the problem. Deep down, I'm really a kool-aid drinking, company man (like so many of the Southies are).
Probably misstated on my part..........how 'bout mistrusted as in an unknown quantity

Coke zero...........really...........that tastes like "new coke" to me, not that you're old enough to know what that is
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:24 PM
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Ferd,
Even the I know what New Coke, or Coke II is....

That was some nasty stuff. Kind of like Dt Coke with Splenda. Never could get a taste for that.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Really? How come? Has Delta done anything to this point to earn mistrust and fear? Seriously? Fear?

What are some examples of AFA's worst fears?Not being a smart ass - just wondering what they fear. Fear itself?

Some of the ridiculous rumors/fears from my last trip.
Richard Anderson is leaving at the end of November and Doug Steenland is coming back. They are going to layoff 2000 U.S. flight attendants and replace them with Asian flight attendants. The company is intentionally screwing FNWA flight attendants to make them quit so they can hire more Asian ones...it goes on and on on blah blah blah...
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Howgozit
Some of the ridiculous rumors/fears from my last trip.
Richard Anderson is leaving at the end of November and Doug Steenland is coming back. They are going to layoff 2000 U.S. flight attendants and replace them with Asian flight attendants. The company is intentionally screwing FNWA flight attendants to make them quit so they can hire more Asian ones...it goes on and on on blah blah blah...

That is one way to start another union drive for them.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That is one way to start another union drive for them.
Unless there's a successful AFA challenge to the results, I believe AFA is frozen out for 2 years (no more card drives).
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Unless there's a successful AFA challenge to the results, I believe AFA is frozen out for 2 years (no more card drives).
The AFA challenges that I've heard about seem pretty weak.
Some are just silly. They are not likely to win.

They filed the first one before the vote was even concluded.
Delta put a hyperlink to the NMB website on DeltaNet. Dastardly tactics!!

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2011/38n007.pdf
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
The AFA challenges that I've heard about seem pretty weak.
Some are just silly. They are not likely to win.

They filed the first one before the vote was even concluded.
Delta put a hyperlink to the NMB website on DeltaNet. Dastardly tactics!!

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2011/38n007.pdf
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I see it that way too (so far). But with former AFA President Linda Puchala sitting as one of the three members of the NMB I think they'll have a powerful advocate on the Board. The Simulator Techs took 5 months and another election to be decided based on NMB's decisions.
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94% voted. That's a pretty impressive number.
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