Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-31-2010, 12:24 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
All very valid points, and what do you think the results would be if a weapon were used in flight by one of us? What do you think the ramifications would be? I am guessing a lot worse.
I hate going thought the routine as much as the next guy, the difference is that I can understand that there are reasons to do what they do, and we as pilot do not have a "need to know" in regard to these reasons.
I hate going thought the routine as much as the next guy, the difference is that I can understand that there are reasons to do what they do, and we as pilot do not have a "need to know" in regard to these reasons.
10-31-2010, 12:29 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2010
Position: Boeing Boss
Posts: 335
The screening process needs to be 100% successful. Airline pilots are not 100% trustworthy to know what we're doing when it comes to preventing weapons from getting through security. That's a painful fact to acknowledge.
We've had an airline pilot negligently discharge his authorized weapon in the cockpit. [public record] We've had pilots go through "crew gates" with weapons. [public record] We've had pilots try to fly drunk, with weapons. [public record]
As a result, I'm not trusted when I approach airport screening checkpoints. That makes me mad. Not at the schlubs groping my sweetbreads behind the curtain when I refuse the bodyscan, but at the jerks who screwed it up so that we can't be trusted. Pogo had it right...
10-31-2010, 01:03 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: A330 First Officer
Posts: 1,465
Then that is a local directive. At most airports they DO NOT have to be screened prior to shift. Just come on down to MCO to see it.
10-31-2010, 01:11 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Top
Posts: 472
All I know is, I'm bringing Courvoisier the next time I pass through security.
10-31-2010, 01:17 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Legacy FO
Posts: 4,099
Has RA addressed the customer service failures and recent bad ratings DAL has received in the press?
10-31-2010, 01:37 PM
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,014
Aircraft seating realignments, performance data after push, return of the Redcoats ... all initiatives to improve customers' experiences on Delta. We're always trying to improve.
10-31-2010, 01:54 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,919
10-31-2010, 02:05 PM
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
All very valid points, and what do you think the results would be if a weapon were used in flight by one of us? What do you think the ramifications would be? I am guessing a lot worse.
I hate going thought the routine as much as the next guy, the difference is that I can understand that there are reasons to do what they do, and we as pilot do not have a "need to know" in regard to these reasons.
I hate going thought the routine as much as the next guy, the difference is that I can understand that there are reasons to do what they do, and we as pilot do not have a "need to know" in regard to these reasons.
"the difference is that I can understand that there are reasons to do what they do."
Sorry ACL, but there are no valid reasons. Clamp nailed it, we have the yoke, end of story.
You folks all talk about this like its some sort of negotiation. A negotiation always has to have a point where one of the parties can walk away. That is not the case here.
What we have here is a collaboration. Our side of the collaboration has not been clear.
10-31-2010, 02:09 PM
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Scambo1; Two yokes. That means two need to be complicit under your assumptions.
10-31-2010, 02:28 PM
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
