Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-28-2010, 12:25 PM
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SWEEET.
Well, look at it this way, SWA is going to pay $40M to retrofit their 737 classics with a new cockpit. That's $266,666.67 per plane, thanks to Excel I figured that out on my own.
$266,666.67 x MD88/DC95 fleet of 151 aircraft equals slightly more than what SWA will pay. But it gets you RNP right? Or does it. SWA is also paying $175 million to bring its 733s to RNP standards... hmmm. Thats not cool.
source: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ng-and-ge.html
Now George, what about:
Well, look at it this way, SWA is going to pay $40M to retrofit their 737 classics with a new cockpit. That's $266,666.67 per plane, thanks to Excel I figured that out on my own.
$266,666.67 x MD88/DC95 fleet of 151 aircraft equals slightly more than what SWA will pay. But it gets you RNP right? Or does it. SWA is also paying $175 million to bring its 733s to RNP standards... hmmm. Thats not cool.
source: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ng-and-ge.html
Now George, what about:
Before long NYC airspace will require RNP to access the big three...
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George
10-28-2010, 12:31 PM
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1. You give the FAA too much credit
2. Theres a whole passal of Cargo operators that wont be RNP certed until we sell them our 747-800s.
10-28-2010, 12:36 PM
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I understand the fuselage skins are great. The airplane isn't ALL bad.
10-28-2010, 12:47 PM
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After that they should fix the wing, elevator, flight controls, ground lift dumpers, engines, hydraulic system, dial a flap insanity, center of gravity, nose wheel steering, electrical system and autopilot.
I understand the fuselage skins are great. The airplane isn't ALL bad.
I understand the fuselage skins are great. The airplane isn't ALL bad.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ser-tests.html
Dugan to start second round of MD-80 reverser tests
A second round of tests is about to start in Washington state, says marketing director Jack Dugan. Speaking at the MRO Americas exhibition in Phoenix, Dugan added that MD-80 operator SAS wants to observe the next round of tests, which are simultaneous with the effort to gain a US supplemental type certificate. Approval is expected late this year.
After functionality and performance testing of the EP-80 ejector was completed in December, the test aircraft was flown to the bases of major MD-80 operator American Airlines in Tulsa, Oklahoma and Dallas at the carrier's request. American operates almost 260 MD-80s.
Dugan says the company expects to have a letter of intent signed with an operator to purchase the EP-80 ejector in roughly 60 days.
The technology developed by Dugan encompasses a new thrust reverser featuring doors used as an ejector during flight, which allows for an increase in thrust while keeping aircraft weight constant. Fuel savings are achieved through mixing ambient airflow with jet exhaust to increase thrust while increasing fuel savings through cruise and climb.
Installation of the kits takes roughly 12 man hours, says Dugan, who adds that the target is to deliver 25 sets this year. Dugan Kinetics has held extensive talks with Nordam and Triumph regarding partnerships to manufacture the EP-80, says Dugan, but no firm agreements are in place.
10-28-2010, 12:55 PM
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Guess SWA will have our # in ATL too.
The No. 1 airline at Salt Lake City International Airport is beefing up its flights while the No. 2 carrier has been trimming service.
Over the past two years, Delta Air Lines departures have increased 9 percent. During the same time, Southwest Airlines has cut flights by 21 percent, according to scheduling data from the OAG-Official Airline Guide.
The differing paths of Delta and Southwest came up during an earnings conference call last week, when Delta CEO Richard Anderson was asked how the airline would protect its hometown Atlanta hub after Southwest buys AirTran, whose principal hub also is Atlanta.
Anderson said Delta has successfully competed against Southwest at airports across the U.S., and he held up its Salt Lake City hub as an example.
“If you look at our competing against Southwest in Salt Lake City, [Southwest’s capacity is] down 11 percent in the last 12 months, and we’re up a bit,” Anderson said. Airlines reduce capacity by cutting flights or replacing a big plane with a smaller one.
In the year that ended Aug. 31, the number of Delta flights arriving at Salt Lake City’s airport was up 4.4 percent, according to the Department of Transportation.
Over the past two years, Delta has started nonstop flights from Salt Lake City to Paris and Tokyo. It also has added routes to business markets, such as Memphis, Indianapolis and Nashville, spokesman Kent Lander said Tuesday.
By contrast, Southwest has dropped St. Louis and Spokane. It will cut the number of daily flights to Las Vegas next month. But the discount carrier also added flights to Denver.
“This is really reflective of our optimizing our schedule [in several markets], culling flights that were unproductive, flights that our customers were telling us that they weren’t finding useful,” said spokesman Brad Hawkins.
“It certainly does not indicate a lesser emphasis on the Salt Lake market or any other market,” Hawkins said.
Airlines are constantly reshaping their service at the Salt Lake airport, but the variety of flights available to travelers remains high, said spokeswoman Barbara Gann.
“It’s extraordinary to have seven other airlines that compete in a market with a major hub carrier like Delta Air Lines,” she said.
Over the past two years, Delta Air Lines departures have increased 9 percent. During the same time, Southwest Airlines has cut flights by 21 percent, according to scheduling data from the OAG-Official Airline Guide.
The differing paths of Delta and Southwest came up during an earnings conference call last week, when Delta CEO Richard Anderson was asked how the airline would protect its hometown Atlanta hub after Southwest buys AirTran, whose principal hub also is Atlanta.
Anderson said Delta has successfully competed against Southwest at airports across the U.S., and he held up its Salt Lake City hub as an example.
“If you look at our competing against Southwest in Salt Lake City, [Southwest’s capacity is] down 11 percent in the last 12 months, and we’re up a bit,” Anderson said. Airlines reduce capacity by cutting flights or replacing a big plane with a smaller one.
In the year that ended Aug. 31, the number of Delta flights arriving at Salt Lake City’s airport was up 4.4 percent, according to the Department of Transportation.
Over the past two years, Delta has started nonstop flights from Salt Lake City to Paris and Tokyo. It also has added routes to business markets, such as Memphis, Indianapolis and Nashville, spokesman Kent Lander said Tuesday.
By contrast, Southwest has dropped St. Louis and Spokane. It will cut the number of daily flights to Las Vegas next month. But the discount carrier also added flights to Denver.
“This is really reflective of our optimizing our schedule [in several markets], culling flights that were unproductive, flights that our customers were telling us that they weren’t finding useful,” said spokesman Brad Hawkins.
“It certainly does not indicate a lesser emphasis on the Salt Lake market or any other market,” Hawkins said.
Airlines are constantly reshaping their service at the Salt Lake airport, but the variety of flights available to travelers remains high, said spokeswoman Barbara Gann.
“It’s extraordinary to have seven other airlines that compete in a market with a major hub carrier like Delta Air Lines,” she said.
10-28-2010, 12:59 PM
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No, that's not possible. 
10-28-2010, 01:10 PM
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After that they should fix the wing, elevator, flight controls, ground lift dumpers, engines, hydraulic system, dial a flap insanity, center of gravity, nose wheel steering, electrical system and autopilot.
I understand the fuselage skins are great. The airplane isn't ALL bad.
I understand the fuselage skins are great. The airplane isn't ALL bad.
Old woman to DC-9 pilot: "HOW OLD IS THIS THIS PLANE?"
DC-9 pilot: "It's got a few years on it."
Old woman: "IS IT SAFE?!"
DC-9 pilot: "It wouldn't be old if it wasn't safe."
10-28-2010, 01:11 PM
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Perhaps this article can provide some "inspiration"
Saudi Arabian 'committed' to 787 despite apparent 777 plan
Cheers
George
Saudi Arabian 'committed' to 787 despite apparent 777 plan
Cheers
George
Inspiration? Nah, but a would not mind giving them our 787 slots for a few of their 777-300's and some of the 787-800 slots later. Oh wait.....
10-28-2010, 01:34 PM
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New 737 cabin 
Now the 777-300, ER? I see its got a 20% fuel burn advantage over the 744, carries in the mid 400 passenger range in a 2-class and the 300 is the best selling 777. How come we didn't get it before?
Now the 777-300, ER? I see its got a 20% fuel burn advantage over the 744, carries in the mid 400 passenger range in a 2-class and the 300 is the best selling 777. How come we didn't get it before?
10-28-2010, 01:50 PM
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Delta will end regional service in four markets
October 27, 2010
Delta will suspend regional service in four poorly-performing markets this winter as it streamlines its fleet and reduces less-efficient turboprops and small jet aircraft from the Delta Connection fleet.
Service will end at Lynchburg, Va.; Florence, S.C.; and London, Ontario, on Jan. 4. Seasonal service at Hilton Head, S.C., will be suspended on Monday. No Delta employees will be affected at any of these stations.
The decisions were made in part because Delta is phasing the Saab 340 turboprop out of the regional fleet, and about 50 of the 50-seat CRJ-200 aircraft are being retired this year as well. In addition, revenue and passenger loads in each of the markets had declined significantly this year.
The market suspensions come as Delta focuses on maintaining its capacity discipline and concentrating growth in profitable markets. The airline’s capacity is forecast to grow between 1% and 3% next year.
October 27, 2010
Delta will suspend regional service in four poorly-performing markets this winter as it streamlines its fleet and reduces less-efficient turboprops and small jet aircraft from the Delta Connection fleet.
Service will end at Lynchburg, Va.; Florence, S.C.; and London, Ontario, on Jan. 4. Seasonal service at Hilton Head, S.C., will be suspended on Monday. No Delta employees will be affected at any of these stations.
The decisions were made in part because Delta is phasing the Saab 340 turboprop out of the regional fleet, and about 50 of the 50-seat CRJ-200 aircraft are being retired this year as well. In addition, revenue and passenger loads in each of the markets had declined significantly this year.
The market suspensions come as Delta focuses on maintaining its capacity discipline and concentrating growth in profitable markets. The airline’s capacity is forecast to grow between 1% and 3% next year.
Glad Slow posted this as this only proves my point how you can skew the numbers.
1) Pull small RJs off city pairs that haven't seen mainline service in decades, if ever.
2) Use the statistics to claim that we are reducing RJ ASMs and numbers
3) Quietly replace mainline city-pairs with large RJs, directly outsourcing mainline jobs.
4) Total RJ ASM and hulls still lower, but now mainline pilots now effectively outsourced.
5) Repeat
6) Profit!
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