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Old 10-27-2010, 04:16 AM
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Also look at the guidance that DAL gave on the 10K for the CHQ and RJET contracts. Those will also be gone in a few years as well.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
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Why don't we enter the "no spin zone", Nu?

At the merger there were 768 mainline aircraft. Now there are 726. That reduction happened over the worst airline recession in recent memory. If you look at the last few SEC reports, management has contracted to add 21 more MD-90's, 12 757's, 7 767-300 and 2 767-300 ER's back to the mainline fleet. They're also looking at purchasing a bunch more MD-90's. So they've got 42 + aircraft coming into the fleet over the next year or so. To be fair, we'll also lose 7 DC-9's. Paltry? I guess you've got shiny jet syndrome.

As to the large RJ's owning our narrowbody lift, the 10-Q has a different answer. DCI domestic ASM's decreased from 23.6% of total domestic ASM's in 2009 to 21.6% of total domestic ASM's in the same period of 2010. The number of departures, block hours, and airframes has gone down dramatically too. DCI had 715 aircraft last year. Now they've got 642, and that's before the scheduled reduction of 52 aircraft at CMR and 32 at Mesaba over the next two years.

With the numbers posted above, I'd say your view of "stagnation here to stay" is wrong.
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Slow;

I just gotta be a smartass here and chuckle outloud at the "no spin zone" comment.

I do also like how you followed it up with the (spin) "in recent memory."

But, big picture, I do appreciate you laying all the numbers out so I don't have to track them down.

I had chili for dinner last night. So, today I'm keepin it real. Thanx.

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Old 10-27-2010, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
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I just gotta be a smartass here and chuckle outloud at the "no spin zone comment."

I do also like how you followed it up with the (spin) "in recent memory."
Heyas,

Even I knew it was a ridiculous comment, hence the !

I try to be as "fair and balanced" as that faux news network!

Glad to be of service on the numbers. You can verify the fleet numbers on the Tech-ops page of a Delta computer. OAG provided some, and Delta's SEC filings provided the others.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:05 AM
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"I think the round dial drawings on the NG screens is hideous. "



I think that " U " shaped thing on a pole in front of the pilot is hideous too !!

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Old 10-27-2010, 05:20 AM
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They also have an excel spread sheet of the fleets on the Network page.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Also look at the guidance that DAL gave on the 10K for the CHQ and RJET contracts. Those will also be gone in a few years as well.
According to the 10K CHQ's contract can be terminated after May 2010 with advance notice. I wonder if they will do so soon.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1215fuzz
I think that " U " shaped thing on a pole in front of the pilot is hideous too !!

LOL!!! So true!!
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
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Why don't we enter the "no spin zone", Nu?

At the merger there were 768 mainline aircraft. Now there are 726. That reduction happened over the worst airline recession in recent memory. If you look at the last few SEC reports, management has contracted to add 21 more MD-90's, 12 757's, 7 767-300 and 2 767-300 ER's back to the mainline fleet. They're also looking at purchasing a bunch more MD-90's. So they've got 42 + aircraft coming into the fleet over the next year or so. To be fair, we'll also lose 7 DC-9's. Paltry? I guess you've got shiny jet syndrome.

As to the large RJ's owning our narrowbody lift, the 10-Q has a different answer. DCI domestic ASM's decreased from 23.6% of total domestic ASM's in 2009 to 21.6% of total domestic ASM's in the same period of 2010. The number of departures, block hours, and airframes has gone down dramatically too. DCI had 715 aircraft last year. Now they've got 642, and that's before the scheduled reduction of 52 aircraft at CMR and 32 at Mesaba over the next two years.

With the numbers posted above, I'd say your view of "stagnation here to stay" is wrong.
These were leased, but recently purchased. Is that correct? It may not have been these particular 7, but I believe the 10K stated that we paid off the leases on 7 767-300's. More debt gone.
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
According to the 10K CHQ's contract can be terminated after May 2010 with advance notice. I wonder if they will do so soon.
Doubtful.
If they terminate that contract they have to assume the leases on the jets.
What are we gonna do with 24 Embraer 145s?

I guess we could fly them ourselves.
But what kind of fleet captain has a name like "80kts clamp" or "forgot to bid"?

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Old 10-27-2010, 06:07 AM
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But one thing I heard that UAL tells their pilots is that you must remind them when you're early. They always think you're late if you stop while taxiing into the gate so rub it in.
interesting-the last 2 DAL legs in the back, I heard an almost identical, "Ladies and Gs, thank you for your patience, however I want to remind you that we are X minutes early.".

If late, how about, "Ladies and Gs, while we are slightly late, I'd like to remind you that on you coast to coast flight today, you were all sitting in a chair, flying thru the air. 150 years ago, it used to take 6 months and 1/3 of you would have been eaten by your neighbor during the trip."

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