boog123

[QUOTE=acl65pilot;882709]Gloopy;
.Ummm, since the merger we have parked almost 60 DC-9's that are paid for and making good money at these fuel prices (and no, they have not been replaced by MD-90's)
Ya think?

georgetg

and that, my friend is why I'm raising the issue....

Cheers
George

georgetg

Nothing in the PWA...

They used to do it all the time until the new schedulers showed up about a year ago. That's around the time I first starting hearing that line. I'm guessing there's a schedulers' "handbook" with language to that effect.

The former schedulers seemed to be more "empowered" and able to "make it so..."

Cheers
George

acl65pilot

I agree that we should learn from it. I think the only way to get rid of the code share is to buy them.

gloopy

I do get that. To a point. I actually like the philosophy behind getting cheap A/C now with no debt and leapfrogging the competition when the nextgen narrowbodies come out. (assuming thats what we do and not hire TSA/SKYW/RAH to do Mitsubishi/C Series for us). The AK CS is providing some great feed that was absent pre DAL + NWA. Much of that feed is pumping up the Pacific expansion. LA-SYD would probably go to seasonal were it not for the CS and the margins and LF from west coast to Japan would suffer as well. We need the feed now to make the big bucks and later to fend off the impending mega UAL push in the Pacific.

And I do see a symbiotic benefit to both DL and AK with this CS. However it is IMHO more to AK's benefit as we can do any one route that AK does, while conversely AK can not do many of the mutually beneficial routes that we do (without incuring massive costs and debt such as a large widebody fleet, etc).

I don't think we have to grow into every AK route. It would be nice for our list, but not practical anytime soon. However the reduction in any fleet or route because of the CS just isn't right (like the hit some fleets took to LA) and some routes like BOS-SEA seem like a no brainer for DL to do, at least it does when I walk through the half empty billion dollar Taj Mullin in BOS only to look across the tarmac and see the old terminal packed to the gills and dominated by an upstart.

I wonder if we suddenly come across a good deal on some 717's if that might free up some 88/90's or 737/320's to go west.

KC10 FATboy

My lame attempt...

maddogmax

Looks like I will be out sick for 3-6 months for surgery (ruptured Achilles tendon). Is it better to call in sick once for the whole time or bid everymonth and call in sick monthly. I do have vacation in Nov and Dec and don't really know how that works, Help! Thanks in advance

acl65pilot

Gloopy;
I have the same sentiments you do. I would like to see the flying in house. We all know that the flying is allowed per the PWA. Maybe DAL will at some point opt out of the CS, but I see them acquiring them before that would happen.

I also agree that AK gets a ton of benefit. They have been able to recall almost all of their pilots by picking up routes we coincidentally drop the day before. On that side of it, I agree. The issue becomes growth. We have parked 9's moved jets on to new routes and AK has picked up the abandoned ones. Works well for them, and well for our corporation, but keeps the pilots of DAL flying the same amount of metal, but to different cities. That is the one glaring hole in the CS. It does not limit much.

acl65pilot

I would call the CPSC, and or ALPA to have them give you the exact course of action to take. This requires a requal due to you becoming non current.

I am guessing that you will run out of sick time, so LTS or disability will kick in. Let the pros guide you though this. They are all top notch.

On a personal note, get well soon. That is a bugger of a surgery.

georgetg

Agree 100%

Even worse, they are two-timing us with AA. To them we are another additional partner, while to us they are the crucial lynchpin to our West-Coast feed...
That's played out in the numbers as we send more traffic to Alaska, then they send to us...

You hit the nail on the head. The whole outsourcing of Mexico flying (I think that was LOA 21) reduced LAX 73N flying significantly...

One more time for all to see:


Before Alaska JV (Red is Delta, Green is CS/JV)




After Alaska JV (Red is Delta, Green is CS/JV)

Cheers
George