Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-30-2010, 04:39 AM
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When you go into a Waffle House and order grits instead of toast.
Then you'll know.
If someone asks you the greatest football coach of all time, and you don't even think of Knute Rockne or Vince Lombardi, but answer "Bear Bryant" without any hesitation, then you'll know.
There are other signs as well.
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09-30-2010, 04:50 AM
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09-30-2010, 04:51 AM
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There was a kid over on FI that, at one time, was in charge of counting paperclips or some such over a tech ops that would stir crap like this up while on his coffee break.
This pretty much falls into that category. This guys lame attempt at baiting people is bush league and his "rebuttal" is even lamer.
Imapilot, level up those phat intraweb skillz from teh bush leagues and come back with better game. Oh, and your "enter" key makes for great paragraphs...your pitiful run on blather marks you as a noob.
Nu
This pretty much falls into that category. This guys lame attempt at baiting people is bush league and his "rebuttal" is even lamer.
Imapilot, level up those phat intraweb skillz from teh bush leagues and come back with better game. Oh, and your "enter" key makes for great paragraphs...your pitiful run on blather marks you as a noob.
Nu
Don't worry nu, I know that I will never be as good as you with a keyboard and a computer. I'm sure momma is proud of her boyz skillz. No hatten bro.
09-30-2010, 04:53 AM
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I could be mistaken, or have woke up in an alternate universe, but I do believe there was a LOA a couple months back which gave reserves the protection to turn down or not be eligible for the Malaria trips. Some kind of extended notice for malarone and the trips, if in open time, would not be going to short calls.
I could be wrong since it is from memory.
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I could be mistaken, or have woke up in an alternate universe, but I do believe there was a LOA a couple months back which gave reserves the protection to turn down or not be eligible for the Malaria trips. Some kind of extended notice for malarone and the trips, if in open time, would not be going to short calls.
I could be wrong since it is from memory.
Amend Section 23 N. to add the following Note after 1. and 3.:
Note: A pilot whose original rotation was not a MED rotation will not be assigned recovery flying to a MED less than 24 hours prior to report time of the MED rotation without his consent.
Amend Section 23 O. to add the following Note after 1.:
Note: A pilot whose original rotation was not a MED rotation will not be assigned recovery flying to a MED less than 24 hours prior to report time of the MED rotation without his consent.
For a reserve it is asap, which means when there are not WS's
From CA Bulletin 10-02
In LOA 20, we defined a Malaria Endemic Destination (MED) and specified that rotations in open time with a MED designator will be covered two days prior to the rotation’s origination to enable the pilots to begin the recommended Malarone pre-medication. In this LOA, we further developed that concept by modifying the Section 23 Open Time Award ladders for both OE recovery flying and IROP recovery flying, as they pertain to MED rotations. When removed from his rotation due to an OE or IROPs, a pilot whose original rotation was not a MED rotation will not be assigned recovery flying to a MED less than 24 hours prior to report time of the MED rotation without his consent.
More specifically, for OE recovery flying under Section 23 G. 5. a., if a pilot is removed from a non-MED rotation and more than 12 hours prior to report of the original rotation there is not a non-MED recovery rotation assigned, or the pilot does not consent to fly a MED recovery rotation, then the pilot has no OE recovery obligation. For IROPs recovery flying under Section 23 K. 1., if a pilot was originally scheduled for a non-MED rotation and within six hours after scheduled report of the original rotation there is not a non-MED recovery rotation assigned, or the pilot does not consent to fly a MED rotation, then the pilot has no IROP recovery obligation.
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09-30-2010, 04:57 AM
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Let's see....
As a Former North Pilot, I'm having trouble keeping track of the many reasons why we are so poor at this whole "merge" thing. Let me see if I can get all of them:
1.) We call in sick too much.
2.) We don't single engine taxi enough.
3.) We leave too many APU"s running at the gate.
4.) We complain too much.
5.) We don't follow established procedures enough.
6.) We overfly MSP too much.
7.) We take all the good "South" flying.
8.) We move into all the good "South" bases.
9.) We leave you all the horrible bases to fly out of.
10.) "Our" flight attendants are mean to you and the customers.
11.) We are too distrustful of management.
12.) We are too distrustful of our union leaders.
13.) We are not patient enough in waiting for change (for anything).
14.) Our negotiators invented the term "super premium widebody flying"
These above reasons are all fine and dandy, but can someone tell me when I can stop being a North pilot, and when I become a Delta pilot?
When do I stop getting analyzed as a "North Pilot?"
Is it a point reached on the above infraction list? 17? 21?
Or, is it a certain point in time down the road? A date? 2015? 2020?
Like seriously, when do the two groups actually merge? I must say, I hope it is soon.
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As a Former North Pilot, I'm having trouble keeping track of the many reasons why we are so poor at this whole "merge" thing. Let me see if I can get all of them:
1.) We call in sick too much.
2.) We don't single engine taxi enough.
3.) We leave too many APU"s running at the gate.
4.) We complain too much.
5.) We don't follow established procedures enough.
6.) We overfly MSP too much.
7.) We take all the good "South" flying.
8.) We move into all the good "South" bases.
9.) We leave you all the horrible bases to fly out of.
10.) "Our" flight attendants are mean to you and the customers.
11.) We are too distrustful of management.
12.) We are too distrustful of our union leaders.
13.) We are not patient enough in waiting for change (for anything).
14.) Our negotiators invented the term "super premium widebody flying"
These above reasons are all fine and dandy, but can someone tell me when I can stop being a North pilot, and when I become a Delta pilot?
When do I stop getting analyzed as a "North Pilot?"
Is it a point reached on the above infraction list? 17? 21?
Or, is it a certain point in time down the road? A date? 2015? 2020?
Like seriously, when do the two groups actually merge? I must say, I hope it is soon.
New K Now
If I run into a Western guy today I'll ask him.
09-30-2010, 05:00 AM
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09-30-2010, 05:23 AM
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09-30-2010, 05:30 AM
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09-30-2010, 07:02 AM
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Nu,
Lots of reasons why we won't be one pilot group for some time. My reason is tied up with Moak writing a letter to the pilot group, after not hearing from him for two years, to only find out he wants a national ALPA pension and oayraise. My main grief with his Black Swan series is the MEC's complete ignorance in the fact that not all pilots are getting a 13% retirement benefit. Yes about five different retirement programs out there, but there are 180 fNWA pilots getting 7% DC and 2% 401k while newhires are getting 12% this year and 13% next year.
For reasons like this DAL is a job, no more special than the last one. Really hoping Lee gets the boot and DAL pilots get some meaningful representation by an organization with mainline interests at heart
At APA the union voted to change the policy to mirror ALPA in that the LECs vote for the MEC chairman, it was soundly defeated.
Time for regime change at a minimum and better yet an in-house union.
Lots of reasons why we won't be one pilot group for some time. My reason is tied up with Moak writing a letter to the pilot group, after not hearing from him for two years, to only find out he wants a national ALPA pension and oayraise. My main grief with his Black Swan series is the MEC's complete ignorance in the fact that not all pilots are getting a 13% retirement benefit. Yes about five different retirement programs out there, but there are 180 fNWA pilots getting 7% DC and 2% 401k while newhires are getting 12% this year and 13% next year.
For reasons like this DAL is a job, no more special than the last one. Really hoping Lee gets the boot and DAL pilots get some meaningful representation by an organization with mainline interests at heart
At APA the union voted to change the policy to mirror ALPA in that the LECs vote for the MEC chairman, it was soundly defeated.
Time for regime change at a minimum and better yet an in-house union.
Of course you will end up with a lot more retirement then the new hires you talk about because you received a large chunk of money to front load that account via the stock negotiated. A new hire will not get dime. Front loading 40k in a DC retirement plan is worth far more then the difference in DC ongoing funding. I would have preferred it was the same for everyone and it was in the first joint contract. Why the NWA negotiating team allowed the change I don't know. It all becomes equal in two years. The second joint contract had reductions in many areas including the first pay raise. I realize you will not be getting anything from the NWA pilot retirement plan but the funding requirement for that plan have been huge and have far exceeded what a former Delta pilot is getting in DC money since the merger.
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