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Old 09-27-2010, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
HA HA. Thats how that was done. I remember AirTran doing it on the 717 and man those clamshell doors were huge.

Funny thing is in the 88 sim I think 1.4 EPR and the engine blows up or surges or something. I've sadly seen some go well beyond that after landing, and I mean WELL BEYOND, and the engine didn't blow up or surge or something.
They were actually pretty fun to do. I don't recall ever doing one at the new DTW terminal though.

Oh wait. I was back on the varsity side when the new terminal opened up.
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Old 09-27-2010, 07:45 PM
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They were actually pretty fun to do. I don't recall ever doing one at the new DTW terminal though.

Oh wait. I was back on the varsity side when the new terminal opened up.

Everytime I ended up outside the Westin there was always a DC-9 powering back. Hard to hear yourself think when that racket is going on.
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Old 09-27-2010, 07:52 PM
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in general, what would be the hotel to stay at if someone was going to the NBAA expo thing?
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:06 PM
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1.4 (EPR) feet on the floor!
We used to do powerbacks in the 727 as well. Such attainment of manliness is not easily obtained in today's wussified world.

Powerbacks in the DC-9-10s were quite the sporting event. Did a lot at the new terminal.

And Clamp...why would you need to think at all when such glorious harmony was to be had? Simply look out window and gaze in wonder.

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Old 09-27-2010, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
They were actually pretty fun to do. I don't recall ever doing one at the new DTW terminal though.

Oh wait. I was back on the varsity side when the new terminal opened up.


We used to do it when the new DTW terminal opened, but stopped at some point (I was out on furlough/bypass when it ended) I heard they stopped the procedure when a DC-9 end up backing into a light pole or something?

Anyway, it was a sporting maneuver on a hot day in a heavy -50. Usually went OK, but sometimes it was 1.4 EPR and one or two loud Bangs! Followed by the compressor stall checklist at the completion of power back. As I recall, a few of the Captains made a loud stamping sound on the cockpit floor with their shoes prior to commencing so that it would be audible on the CVR if the damned thing tipped back on the tail...
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:13 PM
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I used to power back AA 80's in JAX all the time, albeit from outside the cockpit
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:32 PM
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i never got to see a dc9 do it but i have seen airtran do it in the 717 and like FTB said those clamshells were hard to miss.
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
i never got to see a dc9 do it but i have seen airtran do it in the 717 and like FTB said those clamshells were hard to miss.


Its really much more a site from behind the airplane as it backs up. I can't imagine the cost to the TR doors. I think I was once quoted $600K for an ERJ-135 TR door overhaul, thats 1 engine. And if carbon brakes burn out 2x as fast when you use TR heavily and no brakes until slow speed and if you multiply all of that by 274 aircraft then you know why XJT and AE and other ERJ operators said no thrust reverse unless you're in an emergency.
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Old 09-27-2010, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
LOL. We were on the NATS in the Star Lizard at like 0300 and our check airman was sleeping in the bunk. We put on our O2 masks, dropped the super large international pubs kit to the deck and hit the bailout horn all at the same time (simulating a rapid d). We have pictures. He went vertical out of the bunk and was in the jump seat in about .5 seconds. It was frikkin hysterical. Of course, we didn't get an A+ in our eval but it was funny over beers for years. And, yes, he's a senior DAL CA these days. I love running into him.
Now THAT'S funny!!!
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Old 09-28-2010, 03:47 AM
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Power backs stopped after a light pole opposite to gate 55ish was knocked down by the elevator.

The guy giving the power back signal never gave a stop signal to the crew until they hit the light pole.
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