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Old 09-26-2010, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler


Couldn't be that some guys are migrating north to be more senior could it? Nah. That would make me a speculator trying to come off as factual...kinda like you!

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So, if junior pilots are bidding up north to be more senior, it must be because the south bases are more senior than the north bases,

or put another way.........more...... "super premium".

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old 09-26-2010, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Yea opinion is so much cooler than facts.

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OK, Carl, just for you, some facts. Every time an AE comes out, I take the projected category list and "stovepipe" that list for each base. Then I see where I would sit, if I were to bid that base, and every pilot was stovepiped. That gives a true, unbiased look at the relative seniority of the base, at my seniority level. For example, in June-09 I could hold 7ER Captain in NYC on a stovepiped list, but only 73N Captain in ATL, and only 330 F/O in SEA.

So, what does it look like on the category list resulting from the most recent LOA as compared to June-09?

I've moved down in relative position in ATL, CVG, LAX, and NYC. And I've moved up in relative position in DTW, MEM, MSP, SEA and SLC.

I'm not complaining. Just pointing out facts.

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Old 09-26-2010, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
FWIW, talking to a buddy that was ATL 767 B on reserve living in base, he bid off and started commuting after he was being used "every day" but coming up with 69 hours of credit. So I think thats not every day but the point is it was a lot of work that he found 73N NYC commuting a better deal.

I like 88 ATL reserve, the money hurts, but the lifestyle has been good for me.
must have been June/July??...i flew my first trip in a month ATL 767b last week!
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
I've moved down in relative position in ATL, CVG, LAX, and NYC. And I've moved up in relative position in DET, MEM, MSP, SEA and SLC.
Anyone know where this place is?
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gnewt
Anyone know where this place is?

Ha. I noticed the same thing.


PG, your identity has been revealed as a pure fDAL guy

If you've never been to dtw, you're missing out. Nice terminal.
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
must have been June/July??...i flew my first trip in a month ATL 767b last week!
Actually, it was back in the winter. So its been a few months.

Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Nobody's mentioned it yet that I've seen.................what happened to Texas Super????

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The honorable Denny, be nice. However, if OU had lost, I'd laughed. OU and OSU are trying to play each other in the national championship so for the first time one of the two could actually win a big game. Of course I'd laugh if it was a 7-7 tie and had to go to OT.

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Actually, I totally disagree with you about pricing power. When our load factors are at over 80 percent we are essentially flying full most of the time because so much capacity has been taken out of the system. If you look at the internet and technology it has been a double edged sword. If you want to see the biggest disconnect it is SWA as a low cost carrier. Very often, if you try to get a TV "sale" fare you better do it quickly because it's not there very long. All the carriers have gone to "Just in Time" pricing and you never know exactly what is the best time to get a great fare. It could be 6 months, 2 months, 2 weeks or the day prior. OR, the fare you saw now may not be there in five minutes (particularly if you need more than one seat). There is very little excess capacity on any of the airlines right now. How did the business make $8 Billion dollars this year? The key is not expanding too quickly now so that if the economy is flat next year we can still make money.
Raise and lower the price and you keep everyone guessing. I noticed that back trying to buy tickets before I worked here that you never really knew. The best thing was they let you see the seat map and how many seats were there so you felt secure in not buying if there were a lot of seats.... or were there? It'd show full when it wasn't but still, from a revenue stand point that was a bad idea.
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Anyone know where this place is?
Busted. Sorry, guys.
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The honorable Denny, be nice. However, if OU had lost, I'd laughed. OU and OSU are trying to play each other in the national championship so for the first time one of the two could actually win a big game. Of course I'd laugh if it was a 7-7 tie and had to go to OT.
Awwwwwww FTB I was just funin'!! I did watch the Oregon State/Boise State game and man did Boise State look good!!

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Old 09-26-2010, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm still trying to figure out how ATL 767 went so junior considering I thought it was going away, maybe not as soon as once planned but still. But its great, just surprised.

As to Anna Kour... you know who. All I can say is when I was at Auburn a buddy of mine dated a cheerleader, she was cute, hot and mesmorizing and I'll admit to looking like a fool when she walked up and introduced herself. But I'm fine with that, because I met her.

BUT, another buddy dated a tennis player... W-O-W. Its like cheerleaders in a tall version. I got caught staring. Again, fine with that too.

Oh if only I had been a Ferd, I could've walked right up to one of them while standing next to their man - and they were cool dudes - and said "Well, here I am. Now what are your other two wishes?"

Only a Ferd could do that.

Simple, everyone knows it is going away for most just bid around it.
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
OK, Carl, just for you, some facts. Every time an AE comes out, I take the projected category list and "stovepipe" that list for each base. Then I see where I would sit, if I were to bid that base, and every pilot was stovepiped. That gives a true, unbiased look at the relative seniority of the base, at my seniority level. For example, in June-09 I could hold 7ER Captain in NYC on a stovepiped list, but only 73N Captain in ATL, and only 330 F/O in SEA.

So, what does it look like on the category list resulting from the most recent LOA as compared to June-09?

I've moved down in relative position in ATL, CVG, LAX, and NYC. And I've moved up in relative position in DTW, MEM, MSP, SEA and SLC.

I'm not complaining. Just pointing out facts.
Take the large population centers near the corners of the country... Those are going to generate more interest. There is pent up demand for those areas, especially if they were former bases for one or the other airline. As it turns out, except ATL, they all were former bases for the opposite airline.

You could just about bank on NYC/LAX/SEA/ATL going more senior, and sure enough it's happening.

So what?
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