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Old 09-15-2010, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bigdaddie
Do you think if I donate my old 8086 machine then the bids might get done earlier?

For all you young folk (ACL) an 8086 was a computer chip whose first generation was derived to run a drill press. You may know it's younger offspring as the Gazillion Core Intel. I think I could fly the bid request to Japan on a 12 day trip, leave them with an elderly Japanese lady with an abacus, fly back with the results, faster than Delta's super "Tiger Direct" clearance compute used to process these bids.

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The way I understand it is that the computer actually finishes them up pretty quick. (as you would assume).

But then the union checks them by hand for accuracy, and that takes some time. I dunno if that's true, just what I heard.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
For those that haven't seen the email yet, the extension is due to the fact that crew resources was telling pilots (myself included) that if your freeze expires on Oct. 1, 2010 then they would not be eligible to bid on this AE. Apparently the company and MEC felt this was a serious enough mistake to extend the window for a week.

I agree with you, what's another week? I'm glad they are watching stuff like this.
Lein,

Does the system lock you out from bidding when you have a freeze, or are you still able to put in AE choices?
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
For those that haven't seen the email yet, the extension is due to the fact that crew resources was telling pilots (myself included) that if your freeze expires on Oct. 1, 2010 then they would not be eligible to bid on this AE. Apparently the company and MEC felt this was a serious enough mistake to extend the window for a week.

I agree with you, what's anoter week? I'm glad they are watching stuff like this.
Why was that a mistake? If the awards came out before Oct. 1st, wouldn't you have been frozen?

I know there were a lot of guys that regretted bidding a certain piece of equiment, and had October 1st freezes that they were sweating big time, based on the timing of this award.

I don't mind the union asking the company to move an award slightly to help guys out, but I don't like it to be marketed as a mistake, if it isn't a mistake.

If I'm missing something, let me know. Thanks.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:34 AM
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Unless of course they were telling people they couldn't bid SLC 7ER A or B based on a freeze, in which case there was indeed a mistake.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:37 AM
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Lein,

Does the system lock you out from bidding when you have a freeze, or are you still able to put in AE choices?
No. You can still put your bids in the computer under a seat lock.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL330drvr
I think two weeks should be the norm. What's the rush closing it in one week when they have 210 days to train and convert?
How about a monthly bid with a 60-day conversion window? How about block and reserve being separate categories with full MD rights? If we are going to fix the system, no point in going forward 40 years when we can go the full monty.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:32 AM
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DeltaNet is back up and some PBS Bids (a few A's) are out.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Lein,

Does the system lock you out from bidding when you have a freeze, or are you still able to put in AE choices?
I think someone else already answered it, but yes you are able to enter AE preferences while on a freeze. You can even be awarded an AE, just not one that requires qualification training. This means you can change bases on your current equipment, just not be awarded different equipment. There are a few exceptions to this. One is being awarded your first captain seat while still on a freeze. In this case, they will just add your remaining freeze to your new 2 year freeze.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You are rolling your eyes... but I think Frog's point is somewhat valid. Why is it that the aforementioned fNWA bases were rolled over without a rebid while the SLC base is a COMPLETE rebid? Because there is some mythical international flying that might now/someday originate in SLC????? This seems to me to be a goose/gander case if I ever saw one. Why should the one way check valve only work when adding domestic time to an international category and not the other way around? As someone pointed out (was it Frog?) Give 'em a TOE.. and call it good. I'll be happy to go to SLC on TDY and fly TOEs there. But.... I SMELL CONCESSION HERE..... A bunch of dudes in SLC are fixing to get boned, in order to streamline something which does not yet exist. It's wrong.

Spin it any way you like.
T, quite a few guys have been getting boned all along. The seniority list was supposed to address the entire group and their careers; in reality it didn't and just ended up being a ratio across the board. That being said, I am sure most of the guys in SLC are senior, when considering date of hire, to their fNWA brethren across the system. Sure there will be some people, myself included, sent packing again on one of many MDs since this merger; this life of a seniority based contract in the middle of a merger.


If the LAX pilot base of the world's largest airline had more than 450 pilots in categories combined, I bet SLC would hold even more lower seniority guys. Again, hate to keep reiterating this, but Alaska scope and a merger is hurting fDAL SLC pilots, not so much converting a guy to international on a 757. I don't know of any other airlines having domestic 757 categories... A total of 120 737 pilots in California; a state with a population so large that 1 in 6 of all US residents live there. Scope, it includes code shares... SLC is turning into a refuge for DFW and LAX pilots; quite honestly, formers issues and scope/codeshare concessions that DAL brought to the table.
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