KC10 FATboy

I've posted this a couple of times on here. I saw VP of Ops Capt. Steve Dickson give a speech on the last AE in Atlanta. One of the questions he fielded was when do they think they will achieve SOC. In his own words ... and me paraphrasing. He said there are still numerous technical challenges yet to be ironed out and they are projecting early 2010. However, they are worried that having a mass move of pilots of airplanes before the summer schedule wouldn't be smart. So, it would most probably be delayed until after the summer push. Fall 2010.

Don't hate the messenger ...

-Fatty

acl65pilot

Delta Air Lines Reports January Traffic
ATLANTA, Feb. 5, 2009 – Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) today reported January 2009 traffic results for both Delta and Northwest operating units.
Delta
Delta’s system traffic in January 2009 decreased 2.2 percent versus January 2008 on a capacity decrease of 1.9 percent. Delta’s system load factor decreased 0.3 points to 75.1 percent.
International traffic increased 6.6 percent year over year on an 11.3 percent increase in capacity, and load factor declined 3.2 points. Domestic traffic decreased 6.7 percent year over year on 8.5 percent lower capacity. Domestic load factor increased 1.5 points to 76.4 percent, higher than any previous January on record.
Northwest
Northwest’s system traffic in January 2009 decreased 8.2 percent on a capacity decrease of 6.4 percent. Northwest’s system load factor decreased 1.5 points to 77.8 percent.
International traffic decreased 5.7 percent year over year on a 2.4 percent decrease in capacity, and load factor declined 2.8 points. Domestic traffic decreased 10.0 percent year over year on a 9.0 percent decrease in capacity, and load factor decreased 0.8 points to 76.8 percent.
Detailed traffic and capacity are attached.
Delta Air Lines is the world’s largest airline. From its hubs in Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Memphis, Minneapolis-St. Paul, New York-JFK, Salt Lake City and Tokyo-Narita, Delta, its Northwest subsidiary and Delta Connection carriers offer service to 378 destinations in 66 countries and serve more than 170 million passengers each year. Delta’s marketing alliances allow customers to earn and redeem either SkyMiles or WorldPerks on more than 16,000 daily flights offered by SkyTeam and other partners. Delta‘s more than 70,000 employees worldwide are reshaping the aviation industry as the only U.S. airline to offer a full global network. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes, check bags and flight status at delta.com.

acl65pilot

Lets hope these number hold up!

mxav8r

ACL are these numbers "good"?

acl65pilot

The forecasted numbers were a lot worse. This kind of drop off has been accounted for. In essence there were no surprises for last month. Well at least on the FDL side. FNWA numbers were not quite as good.

RockyBoy

Hey could you give us the cliff version of how SOC will effect the seat scope trigger. I know now that they have to furlough to TBKANE before it takes effect, but I don't understand how it changes with SOC. Don't they still have to furlough back to TBKANE to be forced to pull seats?

acl65pilot

No read the JPWA. It now includes all of the FNWA folks that were hired to Sept of 2001. In essence it means that a lot of new hires are slotted in with these guys meaning that after SOC they would need to furlough FNWA guys to get to a bunch of FDAL guys. I think there are about 400 on the bottom of the list that do not have a 2001 or earlier hire below them.
That means that unless you are on the bottom the scope seat trigger will in theory protect you a little more after SOC.
Now our union could vote that away, but from what I am hearing that is not in their plans at all.

RockyBoy

That was a perfect cliff version, I knew you would save me from actually venturing into the JPWA. Thanks!!

RockyBoy

So if I read this right, they would now only have to furlough back to ujhazy #11938 to trigger the seat reduction. So basically they can furlough around 480 guys without triggering the reduction instead of getting to the infamous tbkane. So ujhazy kinda takes the spot light from tbkane doesn't he.

acl65pilot

Of course, but it is always good to read it too. I have learned a few good things in there as well.
Make sure you mark down that you want a paper version of the JPWA that way you can have it in your flt kit. That is what I do. I get the electronic version for DALPA.