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Old 09-02-2010, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cslusarc
Your math is wrong, the press release clearly states after reconfiguration, the 747s will accommodate 386 customers with 48 BusinessElite seats and 338 Economy class seats. This is a loss of 17 BusinessElite seats, but holding economy class the same size. Those pax in economy do get 1.5 inches of personal space with the new slimline seats, rather than reducing pitch. BusinessElite will have 12.4% of seats with this new configuration.

When the 763ER gets reconfigured, I'd like to see two seating arrangements: the GE-powered birds with 28 BusinessElite seats flying high-yield routes and the PW-powered birds with 20 BusinessElite seats flying low-yield long haul routes like MSP - HNL.
Correct: 12.4% it is.

As far as the 7ER configurations, I don't have any problem with your suggestion, because I don't have info about what fits the respective "high" and "low" yield routes.

Again, I got in this discussion only to suggest there seems to be a reasonable rationale for changing the A319 configuration. Each plane (and each route for that matter) has an optimal configuration. I have no idea what it is. I just hope they find it. But based on my experience, the B/E and First cabins are often full of people that didn't actually pay for the privilege. So I'm not surprised to see them "right-size" First on the 319. I also think lie-flats are becoming the standard, and it only makes sense to me we will add that seat to long-haul aircraft.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by upndsky
Maybe I'm missing something, but the way they are going to have us do it, we'll be tying up a lot of ramp space as we sit there, entering numbers and running checklists after they disconnect us after the push.
It depends on how you do it. Many people on here have stated that FOs are professionals, so just let them do their job. I agree. There is no reason the FO (or the Captain) can't enter the numbers while the other pilot taxis, then switch while the other pilot verifies the entries. The FO is perfectly capable of taxiing any Delta aircraft straight ahead using rudder pedals while the Captain is heads down. It was a semi-routine practice on the -9. No reason to stop and tie up any ramp space, although I'm sure it will happen.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:41 AM
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Are all of the 777s getting lay down flat seats in Business Elite? I was just on two of them and neither had lay down seating.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
There is no reason the FO (or the Captain) can't enter the numbers while the other pilot taxis, then switch while the other pilot verifies the entries. The FO is perfectly capable of taxiing any Delta aircraft straight ahead using rudder pedals while the Captain is heads down. It was a semi-routine practice on the -9. No reason to stop and tie up any ramp space, although I'm sure it will happen.
That is the way we used to do it prior to phase 6.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
It depends on how you do it. Many people on here have stated that FOs are professionals, so just let them do their job. I agree. There is no reason the FO (or the Captain) can't enter the numbers while the other pilot taxis, then switch while the other pilot verifies the entries. The FO is perfectly capable of taxiing any Delta aircraft straight ahead using rudder pedals while the Captain is heads down. It was a semi-routine practice on the -9. No reason to stop and tie up any ramp space, although I'm sure it will happen.
According to the video, the procedure will require that we are stopped and have the parking brake set while working with the numbers. IF everything goes as planned and we get the numbers while we are pushing, in most places it will not be much of a problem. If they come during taxi it will require us to pull off. I could see a bit of a issue in ATL, JFK, LGA and LAX as the ramps are already congested and each aircraft taking another one or two minutes stopped in the alley won't help.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop Day
According to the video, the procedure will require that we are stopped and have the parking brake set while working with the numbers. IF everything goes as planned and we get the numbers while we are pushing, in most places it will not be much of a problem. If they come during taxi it will require us to pull off. I could see a bit of a issue in ATL, JFK, LGA and LAX as the ramps are already congested and each aircraft taking another one or two minutes stopped in the alley won't help.
I have not watched the video. You're right; if that is the procedure it wil tie up space (unnecessarily, IMO).
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:32 AM
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80-
What scale do you run?
I'm an HO guy. I have lots of trains.
Inherited most of them from my father-in-law who was an absolute fanatic.
Last week while on vacation I found all my old HO scale trains that I collected when I was younger but never ended up making a layout. Turns out that I've got 7 engines and about 30 cars.

Figured I've got a basement now and plenty of time sitting on reserve so might as well go ahead and do something and make it look cool. I've got a lot to learn about the wiring...
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:35 AM
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80, are you going to let me touch the trains?

Hey! That picture looks like that regional thread that you sent me on PM, haha.

The napoleons really come out of the woodwork when the mud starts getting thrown.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:37 AM
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I have not watched the video. You're right; if that is the procedure it wil tie up space (unnecessarily, IMO).
I flew with a former CLCP a few trips ago... he said he fought this tooth and nails, but the direction came from wayyyy high up. I don't like it when the big wigs get involved, they always screw stuff up because they don't fly the line.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:45 AM
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80 American does it that way
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