Originally Posted by forgot to bid

sniff... sniff... we didn't have fun?

NDB approaches? "okay, look up, where are we?" I don't think you did it but I had someone shoot the approach to the stadium. Only about a 3 mile miss. CFI's have it easy, we can see the airport the whole time.

Originally Posted by shiznit

Note bold....When you were my instrument CFI, we most certainly did not see the airport the whole time......BUT, we did get to celebrate your B-day at Outback in Columbus (with RD or CB?, can't remember)

And that's why have to show my CA's a picture of FTB to explain why I fly the way I do!!!

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

HOUSTON (Dow Jones)-Pilots at Continental Airlines Inc. (CAL) and UAL Corp.'s (UAUA) United Airlines want to end outsourcing of flying to regional partners following their planned merger, a move likely to shake up the industry's already turbulent labor relations.

The companies' pilots aim to finalize a new joint contract by the end of the year, and this week proposed bringing all flying in-house over a period of years following a merger that would create the world's largest airline by revenue.

U.S. network airlines have outsourced large parts of their domestic networks to an array of regional airlines over the past 20 years in a bid to cut costs, though the amount is capped by "scope" clauses in their pilots' collective bargaining agreements.

Jay Pierce, head of Continental's pilots' union, expects the proposal to receive a cool reception from management, but said mainline company pilots can fly regional jets just as cheaply following years of contract concessions.

"We put it on the table [on Wednesday]," said Pierce in an interview at the union's Houston office. "It's a proposition we believe will not be readily acceptable [to management]."

Continental Airlines has one of the industry's most restrictive scope clauses. Only mainline pilots can fly jets with more than 50 seats, and the airline contracts ExpressJet Holdings Inc. (XJT) to fly more than 200 smaller Embraer aircraft on its behalf.

United has more flexible work practices that enable it to fly more than 150 70-seat regional jets. Rising fuel costs have made 50-seat jets less economic, while the emergence of new aircraft in the 70 to 130-seat range have made airlines look to loosen the restrictions of existing scope clauses.

The proposal from the Continental and United pilots includes an initial cap on outsourcing, then a move away from the practice over what Pierce described as "multiple years".

Continental declined comment.

Management throughout the industry has become stuck in a mindset where they feel they have to subcontract more flying, said Pierce.

U.S. network airlines have already carved out almost all of their regional flying units. AMR Corp. (AMR) is working on plans that could lead to a sale or spin-off of its American Eagle business, and Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) recently sold two of its three remaining regional operations.

Pierce said he is confident a new pilots' deal can be hammered out with Continental and United by year-end, in line with the airlines' merger schedule, though a decision will be taken Oct. 12 whether enough progress has been made to continue the current fast pace of negotiations.

The airlines and the pilots have learned lessons from previous mergers, especially the combination of America West to form an enlarged US Airways Group Inc. (LCC), where labor issues remain unresolved after five years. Pilots at Delta and Northwest Airlines forged a joint deal before the two carriers merged in 2008.

"Being third is good," said Pierce. He said one of the thorniest issues - merging the airlines' pilot seniority lists - won't be tackled until a new contract is agreed.

Other areas include furloughs. United has more than 1,400 pilots on furlough while Continental has 147, all of whom Pierce expects to be called back by year-end. The transition deal calls for furloughed United pilots to be called back to whichever airline requires them before any fresh hiring.

Originally Posted by RockyBoy

Ha! Those fools are going to ruin the company. They should call up Moak so they will understand why it is good for other companies to fly all the 76 seat jets. If they aren't careful they will have 2000 more mainline pilots flying RJ's at the new United......idiots.

Now on a serious note, this proposal is a long shot, but at least these guys have the guts to throw it on the table instead of just continuing to allow more RJ flying without a fight.

Originally Posted by DAL4EVER

Justice Dept signs off on United-Continental deal
Justice Department says no more antitrust concerns about United-Continental deal




Joshua Freed and David Koenig, AP Airlines Writers, On Friday August 27, 2010, 5:59 pm
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- United and Continental airlines are a big step closer to their proposed combination, with the Justice Department saying it has no more antitrust concerns about the deal.

On Friday, the two airlines said they would lease takeoff and landing slots in Newark to Southwest Airlines. The Justice Department says that clears up its main competitive concern.

Shareholders at the two airlines are set to vote on the deal on Sept. 17.


Glad to know that was its main competitive concern. Oyve'!

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Buzz, our first APCF poster turned "the man" on Fox & Friends...

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

That's pretty good FTB, but this is getting embarrassing:






Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

That's pretty good FTB, but this is getting embarrassing:






Carl