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Old 08-25-2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
Not true..... I have removed or carried hundreds of strollers/bags up to folks in the jetway.
If that is not the case then why do they chew your royally is you touch one?
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
I'm on the same page. I'm sure the way NWA used to do some things would be very useful to us all and I hope they get implemented if they're the best practice. I sure know that Delta does a lot of strange things (having a whole bunch of different manuals is one of those). I don't understand the "two release" thing, though. At my previous airline, we only had one release which we put in the middle console where both pilots could access it. Delta does the same. If I want to look at the release and flight plan, I just grab it and look. Sounds easy enough to me!

That being said... if we do adopt the "two release" fNWA method... I can manage!
One release works, however there are over 4500 Delta pilots that are certain that two 6 inch strips of paper are better, more convenient than one. It all ends up in the trash sooner or later.
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:58 PM
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Airline tech always seems to lag behind the times. The Dot Matrix printer is a great example. My printer at home spits out at 45ppm and I paid less than $250 for it. I can't tell you how many times I've had to delay a flight while waiting on the paperwork.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
Do you really look at the flight plan so much that there needs to be two of them? I don't know what you can be looking at so in depth that one flight plan can't work for both pilots. Especially on a domestic leg.
He's talking about most of the information that comes on the second release, down to where the fuel planning information is. We used to call it the release.

To answer your question though, yes!

Depending on the length of the flight, I would say that I look at the release and the information I put on it somewhere between 20-30 times a flight (from the preflight checklist to shutdown).

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Oh and they should print up a nice little flight attendant briefing form for us to use, too.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
Not true..... I have removed or carried hundreds of strollers/bags up to folks in the jetway.
So which is it? You've carried hundreds of bags and strollers to the jetway, or the fNWA pilots have recieved numerous memos about "pay slipping"? I'm so confused.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:09 PM
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Jughead;
Maybe they let em carry them and then fill out the slip for the pay. All I know is when we first stated doing these cross-fleet flights I was in DTW and was going to grab a stroller after the pre-flight and was told rather forcefully that flight crew do not tough anything on the ramp.

Of course, we chit chatted about it, and he just told me that was, the way it was in DTW. Could have been him, but I am not the only person this has happened to.

If it is false and we can do this sort of thing without getting in to it, great, I am all for helping those parents out that have to gate check those things.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Let me guess, you guys blew off and ignored their complaints until they gave up.
Yes, as a matter of fact, we did. They however continued to _itch and whine.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
hmmmm....maybe....sometimes its was called icepac or scarepac. My first day someone got killed. I 'learned' how to fly at that place!
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:44 PM
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Ya know I don't think I've had a ramper get on me for grabbing strollers/car seats. I have heard that it's happened, but I don't care if it does. Our customers don't pay to stand on the jetway while our bad attitude rampers dilly dally and bring the stuff up at their convience rather then the customers. They want to pay slip it, fine whatever. But when a mom is traveling by herself with a couple young children and an infant I'm not going to stand by and watch her struggle in the jetway with kids and bags waiting for a stroller. Same with boarding, I like to help them with bags while they board. JMHO.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:45 PM
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Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) said Wednesday that it would add new nonstop service between Raleigh-Durham International Airport and five cities this fall, while also increasing service to three existing destinations.

The new cities are Hartford, Conn; Columbus, Ohio; Orlando, Fla.; St. Louis, Mo. and Tampa, Fla. The airline also will also launch additional service to Boston, New York-JFK and Minneapolis/St. Paul.

The new service will begin on Nov. 1 and will add a total of 14 daily flights. The expanded schedule brings Delta’s total daily service at RDU to 54 peak-day flights to 15 nonstop domestic destinations.

RDU officials were thrilled with the announcement.

“It’s great,” says Teresa Damiano, who heads up the RDU’s air service recruitment efforts. “It’s obviously the largest amount of frequency added at one time by an existing carrier.”

Delta has never served Hartford or Columbus from RDU before. But it has previously offered flights between RDU and Orlando, Tampa and St. Louis.

About 233,000 passengers fly between RDU and Orlando each year, while 195,000 go between RDU and Tampa. St. Louis is next with 98,000, followed by Hartford (96,000) and Columbus (49,000).

Here’s what the new service will look like:

· New service to Hartford (BDL) with two flights per day with an Embraer 175 and CRJ-100 aircraft.

· New service to Columbus (CMH) once a day served by a CRJ-100 aircraft.

· New service to Orlando (MCO) three times a day using a CRJ-100 aircraft.

· New service to St. Louis (STL) on a CRJ-100 aircraft twice daily.

· New service to Tampa (TPA) two times per day served by a CRJ-100 aircraft.

· Increased service to Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP) from four to five flights daily.

· Increased service to Boston (BOS) from three to five flights daily.

· Increased service to New York-JFK from one to two flights daily.

Read more: Delta to add five RDU destinations, 14 new flights - Triangle Business Journal
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