Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Carl;
I was responding to Nosmo's statement about not commenting about this issue on a public forum.

Carl; I like ya, you could give a rats back what anyone thinks. I admire that. Trust me I have no fear that whatever is or is not a part of this issue will get resolved.

I have to admit Carl that when the back and forth starts about you, I read on. You speak your mind, and sometimes many can not deal with the fact that you are so matter of fact. In the end, you do get your point across. Some like it some don't. I think we will all get beyond it.

I agree, the reps have this one, and it will be resolved correctly.

Originally Posted by Jughead

True dat. It has happened several times this month in DTW. It's called "pay slip", not "pink slip". Pink slipping is something we should be doing. I couldn't believe this when I heard it - verified by ATL CPO...DL legal said not to warn line pilots of this due to the perception of anti-union rhetoric (and an impending lawsuit).

A ramper who isn't doing his job, i.e. picking up that bag, un-kinking air hose, not getting strollers, etc. gets 4 hours of pay from whatever non-teamster did do...the pay comes from Delta's coffers, not the individual performing the act. Go fetch mom's stroller, and some dude gets $600 for not doing anything.

I've warned my f/o's not to be a nice guy at particular stations.

Originally Posted by NuGuy

Heyas,

I'm sure we'd all get pretty cranky if a RJ showed up to fly a leg on one of our rotations, and I'd bet cash money that our first call would be to ALPA to make sure we got paid for the leg that they flew.

Busting on another group for protecting their work is pretty hypocritical. I only wish we were as agressive in protecting 'our work'

Nu

Originally Posted by dragon

A few weeks ago, I posted that I'd had several bad experiences at IAM represented bases. Yesterday, had the opposite experience in MSP and wanted to get that out of the way first.

Now, I can't in good conscience support the idea that because we have a union, we have to support the other union members in their "failure" to work. If we fail to work, what happens? At least a trip to the CPO. It's about professionalism.

I'm all for fair working conditions. But in MI the unemployment rate is about 14.5% and these guys act like they are entitled to employment. Just like the ACS workers in ATL. If you're trying, great! Otherwise shove a cattle prod up their butt and if that doesn't work, show them the door. We're not doing well in customer satisfaction and this is supposed to be the year of the customer. Can you imagine if this wasn't a focus item?

Originally Posted by DAL330drvr

Boeing's ultra-heavy 747-8 gets off the ground
August 25, 2010


As part of the ongoing test flight program of the latest version of the iconic Boeing 747, engineers decided to see if the company's newest cargo plane could weigh more than 1 million pounds and still get airborne. According to The Wall Street Journal, it could and it did.

Last week, at a desert airfield in Victorville, Calif., a 747-8 freighter, weighed down by dozens of steel pallets and a heavy load of fuel, lumbered into the air and logged the heaviest takeoff by a Boeing jet in company history, the report said.

Boeing engineers loaded the plane more than 25,000 pounds heavier than what is expected to be its certified maximum takeoff weight of 975,000 pounds. In contrast, Airbus's larger A380 superjumbo boasts a certified maximum takeoff weight of 1.25 million pounds, the article said.

The aircraft was loaded with dozens of 3,000-pound steel plates along with a significant load of fuel.

Last week’s test is one of hundreds that Boeing engineers will conduct on the 747-8 test fleet before the new plane receives final certification from the Federal Aviation Administration and foreign regulatory agencies.

Boeing has 76 cargo and 32 passenger versions of the new plane on order. The first 747-8 cargo jet is expected to be delivered by year’s end. The passenger version is planned to enter service sometime next year.

Originally Posted by hoserpilot

I'd say its not NWA culture but an NWA ramper union culture. The single engine taxi issue will fade away with time. When you tell someone for years to NOT single engine taxi its kinda hard to switch overnight.

Originally Posted by tsquare

uh.... wha???? Oh... the ECONOMY... I get it... as in you could actually defend the idiot that has us hurtling down the path to third world status... If Check Essential wants some of that he is more than welcome.. but I think I can blast that all by myself.


Pluto will always be a planet in my book....

Originally Posted by newKnow

It's not like he and we didn't have a lot of momentum pushing us in that direction already, right ts?

Oh yeah. No Politics.

Originally Posted by hoserpilot

When I flew freight out of Boeing Field I got yelled at for pulling my boxes 30 feet. The bin was still under the DC-8 and I needed my Chieftain loaded. The teamster ramp crew walked away for a smoke. Later that day my Chief pilot called to thank me for always working hard but don't touch the union guys stuff. If they are being lazy go to their supervisor.

The next day I went into the sup's office...short bald buy with a jersey accent. He say's "hoser, I like ya but if you ever touch my guys stuff again I'll kill ya!! Come to me when they are slacking and I'll kill them for you." I had a hard time keeping a straight face cuz this guy could've been on the soprano's.