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08-20-2010, 04:35 PM

#45731

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I've heard this has happened a couple times. Not cool at all.. the union needs to jump hardcore on that.

It happened a lot more than just a few times. Thank you as well for your opinion that this is not cool.

Carl

08-20-2010, 04:41 PM

#45732

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter

Mixed or not, that would not be Kosher.

What would the hypothetical topic of the hypothetical report be? Something relating to mixed crew operations?

The hypothetical reason is that some have the view that a certain hypothetical group of recently merged flight crews lack professionalism. They were trying to collect data to prove that hypothesis.

Carl

08-20-2010, 04:44 PM

#45733

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

I thought this was discussed ad nausem last month on the DALPA forum?

Regardless of where or how long it was discussed, that doesn't answer Nosmo's question.

Carl

08-20-2010, 04:50 PM

#45734

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude

A captain I flew with recently said that his "ride-along" guy showed up in PEK with the wrong type of visa (tourist vs. crew visa) and got the whole crew detained for four hours. Needless to say, they weren't too happy that he "rode-along."

Same thing happened in Shanghai

Carl

08-20-2010, 04:57 PM

#45735

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Regardless of where or how long it was discussed, that doesn't answer Nosmo's question.

Carl

I am not the one to answer that, as I do not know. I would say ask your reps. The answer I got made it sound like there was some sort of mis-communication. If that is in fact false, make it known.

Trust me Carl, when I heard about it, I communicated with my reps.

08-20-2010, 05:03 PM

#45736

Check Essential

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Flt Ops was trying to collect data to prove NWA crews "lack professionalism" ??
That's the reason for the ride alongs on the new 767 categories?

Geez Carl. That's a bit "out there" even for you.

Sorry. I gotta raise the flag.

08-20-2010, 05:32 PM

#45737

80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by Check Essential

Yeah that's just retarded. What I heard it was an audit to see how they were taking to and complying with the new procedures.

Still ridiculous to be doing it under cover.

08-20-2010, 05:37 PM

#45738

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by Check Essential

Read the EFOB on the subject of recent incidents. You'll find terms used that are exactly what I stated ... hypothetically. When you get back from reading the EFOB, you can decide what to do with your flag.

Carl

08-20-2010, 05:38 PM

#45739

Ferd149

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Geeee T disagrees with me, what a shocker.

Well, how bout this.....we all had numerous "over water" trips to HNL, GUM, SPN, AMS and had been TOEd to CDG on the ER. As you said, not real tough.

Once again, I was glad the company cared enough to make sure things went smooth, but I disagree about a whale guy being a waste of $$. At least they had done Pacific crossings if that was really what they were concerned about.

08-20-2010, 05:42 PM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Yeah that's just retarded. What I heard it was an audit to see how they were taking to and complying with the new procedures.

Still ridiculous to be doing it under cover.

Ridiculous isn't the word.

Carl