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Old 08-18-2010, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy

I was walking down the B/C concourse in DTW the other day.

Virtually ALL of the cities were former mainline NW cities, that we served profitably with that bad old gas guzzling DC-9 for YEARS and YEARS.

Tiny places like AZO, TVC, MBS, State Capitols Like OMA and LAN...short hops like FNT, and international destinations like YYZ and YUL....all once profit centers for the mainline, now flown with outsourced labor.
Just checking, but didn't NWA nearly go bankrupt in 1993 AND go bankrupt in 2005?

Maybe all those gas guzzling DC-9's weren't as profitable as the "spin" you provide!

The RJ was disruptive technology. It didn't enter service until December, 1993. It ensured the demise of many mainline only cities, as other networks were able to connect to those cities where they couldn't with Saabs and DHC-8's. Delta has plenty of those examples as well (even the hometown of Monroe). We used to be the only game in town. It then got connected to IAH, DFW, and other hubs with ERJ's. That was the death of the 737/DC-9. Total seats are the same, just different networks flying them.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
jmo, and I look forward to being told what a spineless, pro-management, pro-RJ, anti-mainline Delta pilot that I am...
Slow, you spineless, pro-management, pro-RJ, anti-mainline Delta pilot!!!

(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay

jmo, and I look forward to being told what a spineless, pro-management, pro-RJ, anti-mainline Delta pilot that I am...
Slow,

Quite the contrary - you are a DAL Pilot with strong opinions - Kudos. I don't have the time or the energy to get into a tit for tat. If you look at the original posters question I responded that "RJ feed is needed and serves a purpose." We will have to agree to disagree on just what routes are appropriate for RJs. I tend to think, with a few exceptions, that RJs are best on short less densely traveled routes.

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Old 08-18-2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
Wear your seat belts in the hotels van folks!! I just watched one of my F/A get thrown around as we got rear-ended in a 6 car pile up heading to the hotel!! Everyone is ok other than the sore necks etc.
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I hear you, glad to know everyone is okay. Most, and I mean most, of the A's I fly with buckle up. It's a good example.

Back in the Spring I was headed to work and just south of downtown on I85 there was an overturned SUV. It evidently had been there for two hours according to the radio. As I passed you saw the body of the driver halfway out of the side window and pinned under the car. Reason enough right there for me to hold fast to wearing a seatbelt at all times in a similarly top heavy van.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:11 PM
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FtB;
More importantly if you have a family at home you owe it to them to be buckled. If you do not it is just selfish!
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty
Not sure if any of this info is breaking, but WS and ST just did a crew room update in ATL. Some of their points were:


-ST talked about importance of getting first flight of the day out of ATL (usually around 50 flights)

-If you call for MX within 20 minutes of push that is coded as a flight ops delay
Guys asked a bunch of questions but nothing earth shattering.
Ummm does anyone see the BS on this besides me?

If we aren't required to be in our seats prior to 20 minutes before departure, how can a maint issue discovered then be attributed to Flight Ops?
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:34 PM
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<<-Jan AE
A330 coming to ATL. Maybe Jan?>>

Are they coming from SEA?
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
Ummm does anyone see the BS on this besides me?

If we aren't required to be in our seats prior to 20 minutes before departure, how can a maint issue discovered then be attributed to Flight Ops?

I'll have to check my FOM, but I believe it increased to 30 minutes under DAL rules.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Launchpad475
<<-Jan AE
A330 coming to ATL. Maybe Jan?>>

Are they coming from SEA?
My personal guess is MSP.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
My personal guess is MSP.
I agree with that guess. You would not have moved all of those bodies out to SEA only to displace them in less than a year. My guess is that there will be a little SEA pulldown of the 330's but most of it will probably come from MSP.
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