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Old 08-04-2010, 08:07 AM
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George, I agree and I have been hearing that the will be returning to the leasing company. 25 a/c on the market for a great rate. Not sure if HI can absorb them unless it is for a greater goal.......
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:08 AM
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Mods take this down if it violates TOS, but this is a real company:

Travellers protect dignity with sticky rubber pasties - Flight International




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Old 08-04-2010, 08:09 AM
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More signs the LGA slot swap isn't going to happen?

Delta to Reinvent the Dining Experience at New York's LaGuardia Airport - Yahoo! Finance
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
That is incorrect.

C. Reserve Line Guarantee
1. The line guarantee of a reserve pilot for credit purposes will be 70 hours, and for pay purposes, will be the total dollar value determined as follows:
a) 70 hours
minus
b) his accumulated credit in the bid period, the result of which will be
multiplied by
c) the hourly rate of the highest paying aircraft model that all pilots in his category may be required to fly in the bid period, the result of which will be
added to
d) the dollar value of his accumulated credit in the bid period.
Note one: Subject to Section 4 G., the dollar value of the accumulated credit in Section 4 C. 1. d), will be computed at the hourly rate of the highest paying aircraft model that all pilots in his category may be required to fly in the bid period.
Note two: International pay for a pilot’s flight time flown in international operations in the bid period will be added to the dollar value of the accumulated credit in Section 4 C. 1. d)



G. Mixed Aircraft Model Guarantee
Contingent on FAA approval, the Company may place any aircraft model into any
aircraft type grouping. In such event, the composite hourly rate for the purposes of
reserve line guarantee for all aircraft models in the aircraft type grouping will be the
weighted average for such models based on the aircraft model mix within the aircraft type
groupings. This rate will be adjusted and published annually on January 1st of each year.
That's good to know. I'm happy to be wrong on that one. I'm currently pay protected at a higher rate than the MD90 so I haven't had the chance to see that on my paycheck yet. Thanks for the tip!
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
unless it is for a greater goal.......
ain't that the truth ;-)


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Old 08-04-2010, 08:26 AM
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My guess is that the 717 and the Saudi MD 90's could be flown under the same category. There is savings in that!
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8

I do not know. Read the article. 40 new experiences. 13 dedicated restaurants . I doubt we could put all of that in to the current terminal. Me thinks that includes the LLC terminal as well. This is a lot for our current digs.

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Old 08-04-2010, 08:35 AM
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Just wondering if the MD-90 purchases are also preemtive on Managments front for th 2012. The 737 has a lot of other companies to compare payrates with ala AA, SWA, etc, where the MD-90 seems to have almost no equivilant at any other major. How can we say we want this much $$$ when no other Major really flies them, what can we compare to?
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Just wondering if the MD-90 purchases are also preemtive on Managments front for th 2012. The 737 has a lot of other companies to compare payrates with ala AA, SWA, etc, where the MD-90 seems to have almost no equivilant at any other major. How can we say we want this much $$$ when no other Major really flies them, what can we compare to?
How about comparing to this instead of the air frame. The Seat.

Southwest pay for a 12 year Capt and FO respectively are $206 and $144 per hour for a 137 seat 737-700.

This works out to $1.50 per seat/hour for the Capt and $1.05 per hour for the FO.

Next, determine their pay rate for 2012 as these are todays numbers, then take that figure and multiply by the number of seats in each a/c type.

Determine a percentage above that number for pattern bargaining and add. Be certain to put a cost of Living adjustment/clause in and.....

Finally, except NOTHING less in the next CBA.

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Old 08-04-2010, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I think that since both are ALPA there will be an integration and that is why EV bought them.

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OK. Maybe that was a little too cryptic. I was trying to say that given your sources and methods, and the way you gather intelligence - the CIA must be envious. Thus "CIAus is Envyus"

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