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Old 08-03-2010, 08:37 PM
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We need to get rid of this escalating pay with size of aircraft crap. We need a CA scale and a FO scale based on years of service. By having the workforce chase bigger equipment, we end up creating thousands of training slots. If we went to the pay scale based on longevity alone, then people wouldn't be moving or jumping all the time. It is cheaper for the company due to much much less training scenarios. Then, we ask for a raise since we save the company money.

When I am 50+ years old, I don't want to be flying all night. I know others don't care about that. But I do. Leave that stuff for the younger kids. I want to get paid $$$ to overnight in Savannah and then go home. Call me crazy.
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:51 PM
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European airlines do it that way.

How about a percentage bump at signing and then a COLA plus a smaller percentage. Keeps buying power static and give a nominal raise for being under a contract. COLA after the PWA is amendable. Means you do not need to constantly hit home runs in section six.
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Old 08-03-2010, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
European airlines do it that way.

How about a percentage bump at signing and then a COLA plus a smaller percentage. Keeps buying power static and give a nominal raise for being under a contract. COLA after the PWA is amendable. Means you do not need to constantly hit home runs in section six.
And hitting those home runs on section 6 requires good timing with the global economy... could be great or ugly.
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Old 08-03-2010, 09:36 PM
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Yep, just a suggesting to throw to the wolves
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Old 08-03-2010, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Please don't mix cash and accrual accounting. It will feed the trolls that think corporations can "hide" money.
A couple of years ago I passed the GMAT and was accepted to a great MBA program. Just one tiny thing, I made a D in accounting I in college, a B in accounting II, but that D required me to take an online program for accounting I & II to start class.

I walked.

Its kind of my life's motto, if you're not good at it right away, quit.

So you two guys can take your mumbo jumbo accrual vs cash, recievables, ratios, debits, retained earnings, credits and... do talk to Ferd about it, I for one, will not listen. la la la la la.

I laugh now. I should've gone on with the program but I also lost funding and got a job that was 22/7/365 and that was that.

I'm deaf, thank you Tootsies at BNA. GO DOMESTIC EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI FLYING!!! WOHOOO!

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Old 08-03-2010, 10:04 PM
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I gotsta ask, not being versed in Latin, what does your "postion" mean?

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Old 08-03-2010, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
European airlines do it that way.

How about a percentage bump at signing and then a COLA plus a smaller percentage. Keeps buying power static and give a nominal raise for being under a contract. COLA after the PWA is amendable. Means you do not need to constantly hit home runs in section six.
+1! great idea. not sure the senior widebody mafia will go for it though. they might feel they have to subsidize the bottom financially in order to achieve this kind of pay structure. they would have to be sold on the QOL improvements.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
NewK

I gotsta ask, not being versed in Latin, what does your "postion" mean?

Denny
As luck would have it, I am versed in Latin. Here's to all my buds on APC and their new latin names:

Denny...Victoryus Maximus
FTB......Photoshopus Hilarius
ACL......CIAus is Envyus
Scoop...Levelheadus Amongus
Ferd.....Femaleus Magnetus
NewK...Contractus Maximus
KC10....Gleuteus Maximus I keed!
Super...Coedus Delicious

Carl...Flatulus Disgustus
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:06 AM
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The earlier statement is correct. We were able to bring the 700 pay up to the 800 in return for allowing flights on the aircraft deep into SA without calling it a ocean crossing.
Do you have any pairing info on this?

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