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Old 08-02-2010, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
That's our pay increase going out the back end of that engine. To those captains: Thank you. Inexcusable.

T,

Wow! You have more faith in management then I do. I have a hard time seeing the bean-counters, who seemingly are always 180 degrees out with fuel hedges, giving us a raise on this issue.

Eventually this will all work itself out. I have no problem if Airbus guys decide to taxi 2 engines. In the last 6 years I have been on the 88/90, 767/757, and the 737 - and in every fleet there are guys, for a plethora of reasons, who taxi with 2 engines. Yes, we should all try to operate efficiently, but lets continue to give our Captains the benefit of doubt as to how to accomplish this. Usually guys have a very good reason for what they are doing, anecdotal evidence on this forum notwithstanding.

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Old 08-02-2010, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
In this light, I always note the time I go though security and what lane. I have been queried once about it by a roaming TSA agent. Lost my ticket, and was able to provide him the time, and the lane. They checked the tape and my story matched. Go to go om my merry way.
It's this whole guilty until proven innocent garbage that TSA pulls that bothers me. Don't they have more important things to do? If I've been screened, I shouldn't have to prove it. That's their job.
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Old 08-02-2010, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Yes, we should all try to operate efficiently, but lets continue to give our Captains the benefit of doubt as to how to accomplish this. Usually guys have a very good reason for what they are doing, anecdotal evidence on this forum notwithstanding.

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Heyas Scoop,

Exactly. We hear all about the "big bubble", but people here are awful quick to point the finger.

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Old 08-02-2010, 06:44 AM
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Bluto;
I have an feeling that the memo will be revised.

TSA mandates that pilots, fa's, and other employee groups traveling for non-company business MUST pass though security. That is their call. I do not like it either, but this is something they have decided we must do. OK.

(I say everyone go to FFDO school)

Well, they can state that you have not gone though proper screening and therefore not allow you on the flight. So, yes, it is your responsibility to prove to them that you have. It is in effect, in your best interests to do so. They are the government, and we live under their power.

Don't like it, fight for change.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Lets not get ugly.

The FOM suggests rather strongly, but even the company states that the final discretion of things of this nature is in the hands of the guy that signs the rental agreement.
Ugly? What was ugly about my post? I just didn't like the MYOFB comment. It IS my business because it's my company!
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Absolutely, but you and I have no control over that. We DO have control over how much fuel we burn.
T -it's frustrating to do your best to save fuel when all your efforts are negated in a myriad of factors beyond our control.

I just read on Yahoo that we pled guilty and have been fined $38M due to a cargo price-fixing scheme by Northwest from 2004-2006. I'll continue to do my part, but $38M adds up to a whole lot of apu use. One small (or not) example here - who knows how much else happens daily we never hear about -
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Lame. If this is the case, I really hope that we buy no more Airbusses in the future, because they either are a maintenance nightmare, or their air conditioning systems are worse than the MadDog (and I thought this was impossible) . I understand the culture that you came from, and to an extent I am sympathetic, but this looks like purely a case of "stickin' it to the man", and frankly it is wearing a little thin. Quack. If you really want to play the safety card, then you shouldn't leave the chocks, because DAL has been doing this for years, and I can't swear to it, but I would bet there are pracitcally zero incidents of any kind related to this. If the airplane won't cool... APU inop... BY ALL MEANS run both motors, but for taxi in to 99% of the gates to run both all the way to the chocks? Really??? Safety? Oh, and as far as the MYOFB comment: It IS my business, and it is YOUR business too. Your pay increase out the tailpipe... but more importantly, MY payraise out the tailpipe, and you are damn skippy I am gonna say something about it.
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I appreciate your passion, honest. I try and save money and gas every chance I get, not because I'm a company man but because I'm into dead dinosaur conservation.........shoot, I even got rid of my big sports car awhile back and got a Mazda 3. Momma, on the other hand, won't discuss her SUV

I just go back to fuel flows on the taxi out (I always encourage single engine taxi in) but I bet if you look, the difference between one at a higher power setting vs 2 in a lower setting or maybe even idle is not that great or maybe even equal. So, you gain an FO who is watching taxi traffic and listening to the radio etc vs starting the engine. Which, I'll remind you, is the whole reason you gave us for the FO starting the engine after push.......so the capt could watch ramp congestion.

But, I guess what I'm trying to say is we hear your concerns about money and dead dinosaurs. Cross flow is the answer because "try it you'll like it" or "mom says so" will fall on deaf ears

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Old 08-02-2010, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
From the DeltaNet:

Codeshare service on Mexican airlines suspended after rating change
July 31, 2010


The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration has changed the rating of Mexico’s civil aviation authority – the Dirección General de Aeronáutica Civil (DGAC) – from Category 1 to Category 2, prohibiting U.S. carriers from offering codeshare service on any Mexican airline. As required by this change, Delta will remove its code from Aeromexico flights.
Me thinks this bodes well for us LAX 73 guys. Maybe we can recoup some of the Mexico and Central America flying we USED to do before codeshares with Alaska and Aeromexico.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Me thinks this bodes well for us LAX 73 guys. Maybe we can recoup some of the Mexico and Central America flying we USED to do before codeshares with Alaska and Aeromexico.
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What Buzz said

Ferd <---------also, still try'en to figure out how it's cheaper for Alaska to fly our "good stuff" from the west coast to Hawaii
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Me thinks this bodes well for us LAX 73 guys. Maybe we can recoup some of the Mexico and Central America flying we USED to do before codeshares with Alaska and Aeromexico.
Somehow my pessimistic Monday morning, glass fully emptied mood saying we're gonna buy both Mexico/Alaska someday!
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