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08-01-2010, 09:43 AM
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I read the memo and the weekly flight update. I'm under the impression you can non-rev after a trip as long as you cleared security somewhere. The flight ops mentions a city where we are dropped off at the airplane inside of security. It mentions in that case, you would have to leave security. I'm going to go by the weekly flight update. You guys can thank the Delta pilots in ATL for this change. Two guys specifically.
You may be right. Plus, if I've reserved the jumpseat I can't get that pass from the check in counter. I have to get it from the gate agent working that flight, right? So I won't have pass 'marked' by TSA.
08-01-2010, 10:22 AM
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I don't think it is an AWABS problem, as much as it is a desire by AWABS to use the minimum amount of takeoff power in order to use every inch of runway. I did that one time when we cut over to the DAL system. I've not done it again since. I use a power setting that is 1 or 2 below the maximum setting - and I go no lower. This gives me the additional safety factor that I want.
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08-01-2010, 10:31 AM
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I read the memo and the weekly flight update. I'm under the impression you can non-rev after a trip as long as you cleared security somewhere. The flight ops mentions a city where we are dropped off at the airplane inside of security. It mentions in that case, you would have to leave security. I'm going to go by the weekly flight update. You guys can thank the Delta pilots in ATL for this change. Two guys specifically.
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08-01-2010, 10:57 AM
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They should just keep things simple. If you're in uniform, you can bypass security. If you're not, you can't. It's easy to enforce and easy to interpret.
08-01-2010, 11:03 AM
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08-01-2010, 12:06 PM
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According to the CPSC, if you cleared security at the beginning of your day and have not subsequently left the secure area you can run to your commute flight without reclearinv security. If you're commuting from, say Atlanta to Detroit, you either need to park in the landside lot and clear security or get dropped off at A and take all your stuff out to the terminal and clear security. Basically the same rule that has been in place since all this nonsense started when the Comair ramp agents got caught smggling guns to Puerto Rico or some such thing.
I called this morning and that's how it was explained to me.
I called this morning and that's how it was explained to me.
08-01-2010, 12:09 PM
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Its a good point, thats the way I'd read it that a pilot who went through security in MIA and then goes MIA-ATL-RDU-ATL and then commutes home to DFW they don't need to clear security again.
But if you are showing up to the airport and you are outside of security and you don't has a PS ticket, you go through security and you can't bypass it in any way. Same if you came in from outside the U.S. So if you went MIA-ATL-CUN-ATL and want to commute home to DFW, you need to clear security.
Thats the way I read it, is that right?
But if you are showing up to the airport and you are outside of security and you don't has a PS ticket, you go through security and you can't bypass it in any way. Same if you came in from outside the U.S. So if you went MIA-ATL-CUN-ATL and want to commute home to DFW, you need to clear security.
Thats the way I read it, is that right?
I'll keep it basic and to the point.
The new stuff is screwed up.
Remind me to take any bid I have in for ATL in the next AE out. NYC might be less aggravating.
08-01-2010, 12:29 PM
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LOA #23 and Flow Through Agreements
Why did our MEC on 30 July direct the Negotiating Committee to extend negotiations in order to reach long-term flow through agreements with Meseba and Compass?
Why does our MEC think this is a good thing?
Why does our MEC think this is a good thing?
08-01-2010, 12:55 PM
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I'm not sure but that does not send a good signal. Why in the world would we want a flow through agreement? What advantage is there really for a mainline pilot to be able to flow down? After all didnt we join a major to fly big airplanes?
Just a thought...
08-01-2010, 01:04 PM
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My guess is to avoid lawsuits. I could be way off, but if Compass continues to flow while Mesaba is denied we may see some lawsuits. Would there be a real basis for one? IDK, but maybe they're just trying to avoid them. Or, maybe they're just trying to do what they feel is the right thing. JMHO.
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