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07-28-2010, 03:54 PM
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Its likely it will have the opposite effect. With increased layover times and decreased maximum duty hours total rotation values will likely go down. There was some talk of dropping the 8 hour daily max which could have some positive effect. It is however likely that this would lead to the building of some high time turns. This will be great for very senior pilots in category but have a negative effect on other rotations. Its very difficult to build high time rotations when you take a lot of the long legs out of the mix to build turns.
07-28-2010, 04:01 PM
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This would assume DAL could develop a scheduling program to track this stuff. Considering that it will take the company about 10 years to figure out what facebook and twitter are, you are micro-managing this.
Here's the thing: it may look good on pappier, but it will bite them on the a.. later. LET IT.
I got abused by a Crew Scheduler because I could not make a Green Slip. I was in a city other than the departure city for the GS. It would take me at least 12 hrs to get there. The response: she removed my GS from the computer. NOT COOL.
Let them flounder. DAL is making money and so are we.
BD
This would assume DAL could develop a scheduling program to track this stuff. Considering that it will take the company about 10 years to figure out what facebook and twitter are, you are micro-managing this.
Here's the thing: it may look good on pappier, but it will bite them on the a.. later. LET IT.
I got abused by a Crew Scheduler because I could not make a Green Slip. I was in a city other than the departure city for the GS. It would take me at least 12 hrs to get there. The response: she removed my GS from the computer. NOT COOL.
Let them flounder. DAL is making money and so are we.
BD
??? No idea what your trying to say or what it has to do with my post.
Contractually GS's are not proffers you have to fly them. There is a spot for minimum report time. Best to use it.
07-28-2010, 04:50 PM
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07-28-2010, 05:10 PM
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Pilots refused to WS or GS. Only GS's with conflict were allowed so to speak under the action. It crippled the company within a few days. They quickly went to court and obtained a injunction still in place today. DALPA was ordered to due everything possible to end the job action and pilots were ordered by the judge to return to previous rotation pickup patterns.
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07-28-2010, 05:16 PM
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07-28-2010, 05:34 PM
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Are you saying that a Federal court issued an injunction that says (in part) that pilots must not only fly their normal schedules, but they must pick up white slip and green slip trips as well? What do you mean by "return to previous rotation pickup patterns"??
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07-28-2010, 05:53 PM
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07-28-2010, 06:38 PM
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Corporations get to shop their judges. They time the filing and court to insure they get the judge they want. Delta can file a suit in any state they do business in. They did screw up a bit with the judge they got for the Chapter 11 filing but managed to get her removed and replaced with a Bush judge quickly.
07-28-2010, 07:03 PM
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I know they can Inverse a trip while on the phone but if you screen/don't answer the phone then you get to decide.
07-28-2010, 07:44 PM
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I thought Green Slips were proffers regardless of report time (greater than 12 hours). Yellow slips greater than 12 hours is not a proffer but less than 12 is.
I know they can Inverse a trip while on the phone but if you screen/don't answer the phone then you get to decide.
I know they can Inverse a trip while on the phone but if you screen/don't answer the phone then you get to decide.
Inverse assignments are a horse of a different color. If you cannot make an inverse assignment for whatever valid reason, then you can't do it and that's that.
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