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Old 07-27-2010, 08:30 PM
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Delta 747 Coach seats to get IFE:

Panasonic Fusion integrated IFE Seat




Video of the seat with the blue Delta leather:
(go to 1:33 on this video)
More Comfortable Airline Seats - CBS News Video


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Old 07-28-2010, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Delta 747 Coach seats to get IFE:

Panasonic Fusion integrated IFE Seat




Video of the seat with the blue Delta leather:
(go to 1:33 on this video)
More Comfortable Airline Seats - CBS News Video


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Yep it's nice they have TV...but look how thin they look. Can't believe they are more comfortable then the seats currently in there. Hate to fly 12 hours on that seat pan!
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Old 07-28-2010, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
Yep it's nice they have TV...but look how thin they look. Can't believe they are more comfortable then the seats currently in there. Hate to fly 12 hours on that seat pan!

Yeah, they do look thin, they must be the DC9 seats
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:15 AM
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Not sure if this was mentioned but, as far as reserve goes any thoughts to assigning 2-3 different type of reserve lines incorporating different amounts of short call days with respective to pay credit.

For example:
Currently we keep roughly 15-20 reserve pilots in any given category
(Just approximating here)
Each line incorporates 6 short call days.
(i.e. 90-120 short call days available to scheduling)

Essentially allow out of base reserve pilots to bid for Non-Short Call or Low Short Call Reserve Lines.

(5) 60 Credit Hours / 1 Short Call Day
(5) 65 Credit Hours / 3 Short Call Days
(5) 75 Credit Hours / 6 Short Call Days
(5) 80 Credit Hours / 8 Short Call Days

OR

(10) 65 Credit Hours / 4 Short Call Days
(10) 75 Credit Hours / 8 Short Call Days

The above lines still gives scheduling around 90 short call days to utilize reserve guys on a month. The above is just an example that might be a little complicated, but I think the general idea would benefit both commuters and in-base pilots.

My rationale is that some commuters pilots would be willing to take the hit on credit hours in exchange for less commutes to sit short call.

Just a thought.

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Old 07-28-2010, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Well, at the risk of being labeled a radical... a union could take care of that small issue
It already happened at Delta. Does the term 49er mean anything to you? The union still suffers under the order from the judge.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:03 AM
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It already happened at Delta. Does the term 49er mean anything to you? The union still suffers under the order from the judge.
Nope. Care to enlighten us? I'm guessing something to do with status quo and picking up open time??
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Nope. Care to enlighten us? I'm guessing something to do with status quo and picking up open time??

It means that under no circumstances can there be any effort whatsoever to organize what NWAF16 is saying. It is considered a non-authorized job action.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:16 AM
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Yep. It didn't involve any union officials, but since the union became aware of it and didn't try to stop their efforts, DALPA became liable for actions by the "49".

So few ways to exert leverage anymore.
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Not sure if this was mentioned but, as far as reserve goes any thoughts to assigning 2-3 different type of reserve lines incorporating different amounts of short call days with respective to pay credit.

For example:
Currently we keep roughly 15-20 reserve pilots in any given category
(Just approximating here)
Each line incorporates 6 short call days.
(i.e. 90-120 short call days available to scheduling)

Essentially allow out of base reserve pilots to bid for Non-Short Call or Low Short Call Reserve Lines.

(5) 60 Credit Hours / 1 Short Call Day
(5) 65 Credit Hours / 3 Short Call Days
(5) 75 Credit Hours / 6 Short Call Days
(5) 80 Credit Hours / 8 Short Call Days

OR

(10) 65 Credit Hours / 4 Short Call Days
(10) 75 Credit Hours / 8 Short Call Days

The above lines still gives scheduling around 90 short call days to utilize reserve guys on a month. The above is just an example that might be a little complicated, but I think the general idea would benefit both commuters and in-base pilots.

My rationale is that some commuters pilots would be willing to take the hit on credit hours in exchange for less commutes to sit short call.

Just a thought.

The company side of that argument is that if they have "hard" or "pre-Bid" SC days they will have to assign trips out of order of the reserve stack. That violates the PWA. They will also argue that it will be harder to schedule reserves with "hard" SC days.
Best way to deal with this is LC and SC LOT's and or an organized system of when you will be on SC, or be assigned it. Bidding for SC days may be able to work, but there would probably be limits of no more than two in a row so that you do not wipe out an entire four to six SC's for the month if you get called out on a trip.
If we got a system like you describe there would be two to three times as many GS going on every day due to the lack of SC pilots. I like the idea, but it will not fly.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The company side of that argument is that if they have "hard" or "pre-Bid" SC days they will have to assign trips out of order of the reserve stack. That violates the PWA. They will also argue that it will be harder to schedule reserves with "hard" SC days.
Best way to deal with this is LC and SC LOT's and or an organized system of when you will be on SC, or be assigned it. Bidding for SC days may be able to work, but there would probably be limits of no more than two in a row so that you do not wipe out an entire four to six SC's for the month if you get called out on a trip.
If we got a system like you describe there would be two to three times as many GS going on every day due to the lack of SC pilots. I like the idea, but it will not fly.
Just a thought, would probably be more complex while being difficult complying with the PWA.

At very least, it would be nice to see sometime of credit added to a reserve pilot's monthly credit for short call days.

Even offering up GS short call pick up days for in base pilots, or the ability to swap short call days with other reserve pilots dropping the short call credit time for one pilot and tacking it on the pilot picking up the short call.
As long as it doesn't cost the company any money or conflict with rotation/rest requirements, I think their is a chance it could work.

I doubt any of this would work while complying with the contract, and besides I think scheduling would be vehemently against any such changes. They seem to like the flexibility when working with reserves.
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