Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-27-2010, 02:41 AM
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
(After August that is.)
07-27-2010, 02:44 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Ferd,
Dangit! Missed you by thaaat much!!
I'm sure we will meet up in Asia sometime in the near future! I think you will find your new commute fairly easy even if a lot of it is offline.Denny
07-27-2010, 03:46 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: A330
Posts: 216
GS question
Scenario - you are on reserve with the remainder of the month off, next month you hold a line
If you green slip a trip, do you lose your days off? Do they bank those days until you have reserve again?
Thanks
If you green slip a trip, do you lose your days off? Do they bank those days until you have reserve again?
Thanks
07-27-2010, 03:50 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,574
They become payback days and are banked. You can use them to drop trips and get paid which is the best cost use. I used 3 to drop 3 8.5 hour turns which netted me almost 26 hours pay. If you don't use them by 31 Dec they become extra vacation days for the following year.
07-27-2010, 05:58 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 758
I was trying to find this in the contract. Does a payback day only cover 1 day of a trip?
07-27-2010, 06:08 AM
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
A PB day is given for each day of the trip that you are gone. The PR is what is left over after the nine hrs of rest that is given before the PB starts.
07-27-2010, 06:18 AM
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
23-U B.
b. A reserve pilot who has flown a GS rotation(s) will receive:
1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve oncall
days that occurred before the pilot’s accumulated credit exceeded the ALV
(applied against his reserve guarantee),
and
2) single pay, no credit (in addition to any other form of pay and credit for the bid
period) for the portion of such rotation(s) that:
a) interrupted his X-day(s), or
b) occurred after his accumulated credit equaled the ALV,
Note one: A reserve pilot who flies a GS rotation into an X-day(s) is entitled to
additional time free of duty under Section 23 S. 11.
Note two: A reserve pilot awarded a GS rotation in which all duty periods of the
rotation are scheduled to operate on on-call days may request that one X-day that
coincides with a day on which the pilot does not have a duty period within the GS
rotation be moved to the first day of the GS rotation.
c. A long call reserve pilot who is awarded a GS rotation with a report that is within 12
hours of the first attempted contact will receive single pay, no credit for the first duty
period of the rotation (in addition to any other pay and credit for the bid period).
23 S.11
11. A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS or reroute will be given nine
hours free of duty upon his release at the completion of his rotation.
a. His X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will
continue until he has received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted
and remaining X-day in his scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the
pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
23 S. 16
16. A reserve pilot who is eligible for an additional day(s)-off under Section 23 S. 11. - 14.
will:
a. take such day(s)-off in the current or a future bid period, by mutual agreement with
Crew Scheduling, or
b. have such day(s) added to a current year vacation period(s), by mutual agreement
with Vacation Planning, or
c. have such day(s) added to his earned vacation for the next vacation year, if not used
in the current vacation year.
b. A reserve pilot who has flown a GS rotation(s) will receive:
1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve oncall
days that occurred before the pilot’s accumulated credit exceeded the ALV
(applied against his reserve guarantee),
and
2) single pay, no credit (in addition to any other form of pay and credit for the bid
period) for the portion of such rotation(s) that:
a) interrupted his X-day(s), or
b) occurred after his accumulated credit equaled the ALV,
Note one: A reserve pilot who flies a GS rotation into an X-day(s) is entitled to
additional time free of duty under Section 23 S. 11.
Note two: A reserve pilot awarded a GS rotation in which all duty periods of the
rotation are scheduled to operate on on-call days may request that one X-day that
coincides with a day on which the pilot does not have a duty period within the GS
rotation be moved to the first day of the GS rotation.
c. A long call reserve pilot who is awarded a GS rotation with a report that is within 12
hours of the first attempted contact will receive single pay, no credit for the first duty
period of the rotation (in addition to any other pay and credit for the bid period).
23 S.11
11. A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS or reroute will be given nine
hours free of duty upon his release at the completion of his rotation.
a. His X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will
continue until he has received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted
and remaining X-day in his scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the
pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
23 S. 16
16. A reserve pilot who is eligible for an additional day(s)-off under Section 23 S. 11. - 14.
will:
a. take such day(s)-off in the current or a future bid period, by mutual agreement with
Crew Scheduling, or
b. have such day(s) added to a current year vacation period(s), by mutual agreement
with Vacation Planning, or
c. have such day(s) added to his earned vacation for the next vacation year, if not used
in the current vacation year.
07-27-2010, 06:51 AM
Moderator
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
It appears news of the A319's losing four first class seats hit the frequent fliers...there's a nasty thread going on another site.
I recall someone from corporate, maybe even Richard, saying the 319 in the NW configuration (F16Y108) wasn't making money and more seats were needed.
I thought we heard 130 seats total on the 319 but these folks are up in arms because seat maps show the planes going to F12Y114 - 126 total. That's only a two seat gain!!! All the effort & money to add two additional seats while removing a row of first class?
I recall someone from corporate, maybe even Richard, saying the 319 in the NW configuration (F16Y108) wasn't making money and more seats were needed.
I thought we heard 130 seats total on the 319 but these folks are up in arms because seat maps show the planes going to F12Y114 - 126 total. That's only a two seat gain!!! All the effort & money to add two additional seats while removing a row of first class?
I wouldn't think they would remove any 1st class seats, but I'm just a line grunt so what do I know?
07-27-2010, 07:00 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,716
Doesn't make sense to remove seats from the mythical HVCs. Like Johnson...just a line grunt.
07-27-2010, 07:33 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: right for a long, long time
Posts: 2,642
It appears news of the A319's losing four first class seats hit the frequent fliers...there's a nasty thread going on another site.
I recall someone from corporate, maybe even Richard, saying the 319 in the NW configuration (F16Y108) wasn't making money and more seats were needed.
I thought we heard 130 seats total on the 319 but these folks are up in arms because seat maps show the planes going to F12Y114 - 126 total. That's only a two seat gain!!! All the effort & money to add two additional seats while removing a row of first class?
I recall someone from corporate, maybe even Richard, saying the 319 in the NW configuration (F16Y108) wasn't making money and more seats were needed.
I thought we heard 130 seats total on the 319 but these folks are up in arms because seat maps show the planes going to F12Y114 - 126 total. That's only a two seat gain!!! All the effort & money to add two additional seats while removing a row of first class?
The reason FC sucks nowadays is because the company doesn't collect commensurate revenue to PAY for the extra costs associated with having FC seats in place of Y seats, and therefore they keep cutting the amenities.
Its a vicious cycle and I wish the airlines would make FF upgrades "more expensive" to help keep the levels of service high in the front of the plane.
If we keep letting a product that costs $100 be given away for $80, then pretty soon we will only put $80 into that product.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
