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My former regional asked things that were not in the book, gave engine failures while doing steep turns, full maneuvers and approaches plus ground stuff with Easter eggs in a 2.5 ride with no slew and full blown jeopardy orals on recurrents.

Deltas training is very laid back, very enjoyable as long as you study what they asked you to study. The limitations and memory items are nearly non existent. Like 80 said, just wait til you try it, you'll like it. I think if someone goes off the reservation then they'll have more explaining to do then the pilot being checked.

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50... 40.. 30.20.M&M!!!! AWWW...

Actually, you want to go to training with 80, without my picture search engine and Internet idiom double checks I'll probably come off as lame. Of course the question is do you want to look like you're the smart one? If so, don't fly with 80.

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Best part of the 88 training, the day you meet that little yellow worm thing that pops up on the FO's yoke for an overspeed. My sim partner said it looked like a monkey penis. I laughed. I told my wife, it looks like a monkey penis. My wife says "gross!... you don't have to touch it do you?"

NO!, welll I don't know, but I'm not touching it.

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new, all that technology is to make up for what a well experienced 9 pilot has in their head. Its a handicap.
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This is for Check, more Dahlonega Nudist Retreat:



Does that cat look, perturbed on the right? Like its just figuring out something ain't right?

scambo1

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Isn't Dahlonega where it was discovered that Ned Beatty had a "purty mouth?"

FTB it's a foul to post pictures like this even with perturbed cats. It is probably a bigger foul to quote them.

hockeypilot44

You're making me feel a little better. Still, I haven't taken an oral or had hard memory items in years.

acl65pilot

There is a push to go to a Hard Card for the Recall Items but to date that has not occurred.

Also think of it this way. We are not required to know a/c weights just fuel capacities. It is a "big boy" course. I have taken a few PC's here and a few other events and a few full training courses. It is probably the best way to get the required checks in em boxes with the least amount of pain. Of course I would like a little more class work on the systems, but we as pilots have proven that a bare bones course works and that we can be successful with it. It will be really hard to convince the finance guys to throw millions that way, so the onus is on us to make it work.

DAL4EVER

The one on the right looks like Stalin reincarnated in this life as the cat to some nudist goofballs. The look says, "and if I was half the pus*y I was in a former life you'd be in a worker's camp not a nudist camp right now." Kharma takes a nasty turn here.

DAL4EVER

The sim portion is fine. But the systems (100 series) is a joke now. I understand the reasoning behind it, but my last full course involved 1.5 hours of actual systems review. Nothing like the "old days". That said, they don't go into the minutia of the old days.

No, "what's your favorite system?"

"Electrics."

"Great, I'm an electron, now show me everywhere I will travel over the next three hours of the oral."

In memory of the 727.

Carl Spackler

Haven't these people ever heard of salads?!?

Ever notice that nudists are always the ones that shouldn't be?

Carl

DeadHead

I think the theory is, as much as I hate to say it, the less in-depth systems knowledge a pilot has, the less likely that pilot will start straying outside QRH checklist items.

Personally I think it comes down to judgement with a conservative approach to intervening with a checklist item and doing what makes sense. At the end of the day, regardless of the outcome, a flight crew will need to have a very good explanation for deviating from a checklist item as opposed to doing things line by line.

Prior to Delta, my sim checks at my previous employer frequently included an engine fire during a single engine approach. This is a prime example where completely ignoring the memory items can prevent one from shutting down both engines. This is an extreme case with an obvious understanding of what the appropriate action should be, but the concept is the same.

I think safety works in numbers, and most aircraft makers, airline companies, and training departments feel that there is a very remote percentage of emergency situations that are not covered in a FAA approved QRH.

Again, I just think this is the mentality, not that I entirely agree. I for one would like at least a week or two of aircraft systems training just to have a better understanding of the aircraft. I could definitely use the extra sleep.