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Old 06-30-2010, 08:36 PM
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I've seen that from time to time. It seems to only occur with really slow internet connections. That's the only time I've seen it.

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Old 06-30-2010, 08:38 PM
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It does not deal directly with the Mesaba deal except that the numbers will be very close to the 85 that is required in the kickback provision if the flows are canceled or becomes unavailable.
But you haven't made any sense with the hundreds of other 76 seaters at Skywest, Comair, etc.

I do not believe the flows will be cancelled. It's contractual on two ends.
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There is another way to get rid of the flows.

If mesabas assets are sold to skywest, or the flying is simply transfered, the pilots and the contract would be gone. The flow would then be gone as well.

Same thing could happen at compass as well.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:43 PM
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If the flow becomes unavailable by any means the amount of allowed 76 seat jets is reduced to 85. The seats need to be block off quickly and removed shortly there after. That is the poison pill there with the flow. So with 86 jets with 76 sets or more that leaves it very close. That is DCI wide. Currently there are 153 76 seat jets flying in the delta system. Look at you math above.

The contact allows 255 total 70 and or 76 seat jets not to exceed 153 76 seat jets until we have 763(8) mainline jets and then 3-1 for more 76 seat jets. This does not preclude DAL from awarding 70 (66) seat flying to the 255 number. The proviso on the flows details 76 seat jets not the 255 cap for 70/76 seat jets.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
There is another way to get rid of the flows.

If mesabas assets are sold to skywest, or the flying is simply transfered, the pilots and the contract would be gone. The flow would then be gone as well.

Same thing could happen at compass as well.
If they disband Compass to sell the assets off, then they lose the 36 airframe, 89,000lbs carve out. Not in management's best interest to do that.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:49 PM
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If they can get RJET to waive the early termination penalties for those 175's it makes a ton of sense for DAL to do it. It is a cheap way out of their DCI contract.

Why do you think we are keeping the DC-9 30's and 40's a few more months? (Just a guess)
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
If they disband Compass to sell the assets off, then they lose the 36 airframe, 89,000lbs carve out. Not in management's best interest to do that.
That was my thoughts exactly. I dont think delta management is willing to give up 68 76 seat aircraft just to rid themselves of the flows.

However after reading this part again

"Exception two: In the event the flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 and LOA 2006-14 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats specified in Section 1 B. 40. d. will revert to 85. "

It does say LOA 2006-10 and LOA 2006-14.

Does each refer to the seperate flow.

If so it seems to me that they would be able to elimate one of the flows and still be in compliance with the exception.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:57 PM
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All I can say is that tomorrow should be a big day for the future of DCI.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:59 PM
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Riddle you have found the proverbial nail and hit it square on the head. Yes they detail each flow separately.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
All I can say is that tomorrow should be a big day for the future of DCI.

Yo dude, its already tomorrow. Our clocks say 12:58am bubba time. Spill the beans before I spill my drink. (-:
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